Mike: Wow! I was wondering what made Tara that different from all the previous FSO vendors until I saw the range number. That’s a huge advantage to be able to do that at optical thus no RF interference issues. Thanks for the great writeup! Steve Stroh Steve Stroh N8GNJ (he / him / his) Editor Zero Retries Newsletter - https://www.zeroretries.org Radios are Computers - With Antennas! On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 02:43 Mike Puchol via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > As I work for Taara, I’ll be happy to answer doubts & questions where I > can! > > With that, a few thoughts. Please note that these are my own personal > musings, and not the official position of Taara - I’m not in PR or marcomms. > > IMHO the “Taara is going to compete with Starlink” is a comment that was > taken by a reporter and turned into the major headline. Think of it in > terms of every time you heard of a social network startup becoming the new > “Facebook killer”. Taara is currently playing in the middle mile, it is > point to point, terrestrial only, and will move into last mile with the > help of the optical phased array (the “Taara chip” that was announced at > MWC). > > In order to directly compete with Starlink, we’d have to become a fully > fledged ISP, and vertically integrate the whole distribution down to > individual customers - and we know what kind of investment that requires. > Can we help ISPs that play on the same turf as Starlink? Sure. Can we help > in urban cellular networks where densification is challenged by congested > RF and costly fiber? Yes indeed. Are we a replacement for Starlink? No. > > As for the current Taara Lightbridge system, it is a point to point, > Earth-based, 20 Gbps bidirectional system. The maximum rated distance is 20 > km as we keep a certain reserve margin, however, we successfully closed a > link at 54 km across the Bay Area, and technically we could achieve 75 km > with zero margin. > > How do we keep a laser aligned? We use a combination of coarse pointing > mirror which gives us 6º at slow rates (think compensation for structural > movements due to day/night thermals), and a fine steering mirror that can > adjust 0.5º at very high rates, used to compensate vibrations, and to some > extent, scintillation. > > The chip allows us to remove some of these mechanical components and > compress some of the system, for example, removing the coarse pointing > mirror and making the telescope smaller. The OPA allows focusing and > steering the laser beam, and also compensate for phase and wave front > errors, something we can’t do with Lightbridge. > > Weather does affect the optical spectrum, to the tune of hundreds of dB/km > at certain wavelengths - in scenarios where this can be a factor, we can be > deployed in hybrid with an RF system. Our typical use cases are capacity > upgrades, where instead of replacing an existing microwave link with > another microwave link to maybe gain 1-2 Gbps, the operator can gain 20 > Gbps for 95-99.9% of the time. > > Best, > > Mike > On Mar 17, 2025 at 22:22 -0700, Michael Richardson via Starlink < > starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>, wrote: > > > David Lang via Starlink wrote: > > Since it kept talking about being a replacement for Starlink, I assumed > that the towers would communicate with satellites. If there are no > satellites being used, then it's not going to be a Starlink competitor > as you would have to build a long chain of laser towers to try and > provide service everywhere. > > > (It would work fine for the flat earth types though) > (or if you live on Terry Pratchard's Discword) > > But, seriously we have lots and lots of microwave towers from decades ago. > I think most are abandonned due to fibre being better, but getting new > rights > of way for fiber is probably hard. The railways were delighted to be > involved 30 years ago, but now, I suspect the field is closed to any new > entrants. > > So lasers between towers makes a lot of sense to me. > Particularly through/across marshy tundra in, for instance, Canada's north. > > Just not between pacific islands. > > -- > ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ > ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ > ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ > > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >