From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr1-x435.google.com (mail-wr1-x435.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::435]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C53CB3B2A4; Wed, 9 Mar 2022 22:50:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wr1-x435.google.com with SMTP id p9so5927988wra.12; Wed, 09 Mar 2022 19:50:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hYFZbjbjaqCI6lPrK0sxHHcKk4/kIzNnsjYj/QyKORE=; b=LEIoNxiVmObONPhrhBId8AeJRpOSRZove3iuYcFxtuzmoUVdvqEkkRrPEizSmLcc5/ 3uMm8z3R5/8u0lAQvOl36CNIltwGarNZayrH/84j1U6rfvETRY0Lv/fbEJhajSYQDRVU wTaDmYHeqYxWSjk7gcfBXCtn5mZ+M9ykxt0fB3cRbBRnGRDIsqrQ4lovsLUShEwQjGzg cD5JOLENjUWkb1J5sK2+SvtEJVVeEpU2jBpUGwh9r8VhiYdCdBufllrdQ7uUSnHyzMqt scDLBHxm8kJrTVF0Fzc9tuo56MnrftgNeitfoJbtu+OYgmp/zZm1qMqBddRNCyZ5s3tp CGEg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hYFZbjbjaqCI6lPrK0sxHHcKk4/kIzNnsjYj/QyKORE=; b=umEKo+15es1mYnyJaT/gTxpuUk5v9ZMxztDZabxfi1yNhQb2stGAm28xIRoKNcZxbE +b1FT2w7g7rAj5Dg7l0UuVINNeHJV8IK7FW9p+eQHdHepqU8Ji6qL9o9nslTEicgRwY5 D+UPo0BtNKHgQ5BCJSfpyu6E74OOKKbkWfPYkiZvN4+/BUjCiwOOQb8kGTiGROm5H8Sk nMge8LLbkX/49RhbZzTKz0R2KZuW7XA34YtCabZmAdJit2i9py79yXI98uLfzeqIPdqH hIV+BYKuBOb3eWYKFnUi8q5Bn3AgGB2jBBsv7eQ7NqQxr8eXOx0BWwW6KCp12CDCCnDR 4t3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531jiEO9T+PHrLr1qN45reqPe5MpmSkmRnLF2mTth801R29d5FMU O4E/lp3dVpPAkxtakM2Xnjm8HHifELQdrZz+rJE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw3FyY0uK7lDJ5pKgEOO+dvO80+rT5kG6+Dnw8X79Pf1Iu99uVO598sTpa5Zz4n0Xjig6kG66ptZkkZViPVLoY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:1a85:b0:203:86bc:9816 with SMTP id f5-20020a0560001a8500b0020386bc9816mr936440wry.67.1646884232250; Wed, 09 Mar 2022 19:50:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Joshua Mermelstein Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 22:50:19 -0500 Message-ID: To: "Yao, Lisa (US)" Cc: Dave Taht , bloat , "starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" , Make-Wifi-fast , Jamie Tucker-Foltz , Vasu Kaker Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a649d005d9d51d8b" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 09:25:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [Starlink] [EXT] Talk now up: How the internet really works X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 03:50:34 -0000 --000000000000a649d005d9d51d8b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hooray! I shared the video with my team at work. I hope they enjoy the talk and the juggling :) On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 11:24 AM Yao, Lisa (US) wrote= : > You guys stole the show. Here is a tweet if you'd like to share: > > > https://twitter.com/TTIVanguard/status/1501229502474510340?s=3D20&t=3DO8u= 3dP5zs_h6vyYKIeIMfw > >

If you mis= sed href=3D"https://twitter.com/mtaht?ref_src=3Dtwsrc%5Etfw">@mtaht fanta= stic > talk last week on improving internet latency, you are in luck because her= e > it is! https://t.co/YZWjRNEVU8— > TTIVanguard (@TTIVanguard) https://twitter.com/TTIVanguard/status/1501229502474510340?ref_src=3Dtwsr= c%5Etfw">March > 8, 2022

> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Taht > Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2022 7:07 AM > To: bloat ; starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net; > Make-Wifi-fast > Cc: Yao, Lisa (US) ; Jamie Tucker-Foltz < > jtuckerfoltz@gmail.com>; Vasu Kaker ; Josh Mermel < > joshmermel@gmail.com> > Subject: [EXT] Talk now up: How the internet really works > > My talk last week at TTI Vanguard is now up on youtube. I used no slides, > and a bunch of new simple analogies (including the world's most elaborate > "rickroll"!) to explain the problems videoconferencing and voice have wit= h > competing with web traffic, with bits about cryptography, packet loss, > bufferbloat, fair queueing and active queue management across all our > access technologies today, as well as some notes as to the NTIA broadband > programs and ongoing FCC measurements. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTWViGcBlnm0 > > My special thanks to Len and Nancy Kleinrock, and to Lisa Yao, CEO of TTI > Vanguard, for sponsoring my talk and travel. Plug: There were a bunch of > very interesting other talks at that conference (including one amazing on= e > on quantum computing that went over my head > completely) that I enjoyed greatly. A huge thx also to my volunteers, > Jamie, Vasu, and Joshua, who went the extra mile to help out. > > I am of course trying to reach new audiences outside our circle with my > talk, please reshare widely? > > -- > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > > DISCLAIMER: The information in this e-mail is confidential. The contents > may not be disclosed or used by anyone other than the addressee. If you a= re > not the intended recipient(s), any use, disclosure, copying, distribution > or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibite= d > and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify us by e-mail or by telephone at +1 212-224-3300 and then > delete the e-mail and all attachments and any copies thereof. Institution= al > Investor Inc. cannot accept responsibility for the accuracy or completene= ss > of this e-mail, as it has been transmitted over a public network. If you > suspect that the e-mail may have been intercepted or amended, please call > the sender. Any views expressed by an individual in this e-mail do not > necessarily reflect the views of Institutional Investor Inc. This > communication is from Institutional Investor Inc., a company incorporated > in the State of Delaware in the United States of America and located at > 1120 Avenue Of The Americas, New York, NY 10036. > --000000000000a649d005d9d51d8b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hooray! I shared the video with my team at work. I hope th= ey enjoy the talk and the juggling :)

<= div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 11:24 AM Yao, L= isa (US) <LYao@ttivanguard.com> wrote:
Yo= u guys stole the show. Here is a tweet if you'd like to share:

http= s://twitter.com/TTIVanguard/status/1501229502474510340?s=3D20&t=3DO8u3d= P5zs_h6vyYKIeIMfw

<blockquote class=3D"twitter-tweet"><p lang=3D"en&q= uot; dir=3D"ltr">If you missed <a href=3D"https://twitter.com/mtaht?ref_src=3Dtwsrc%5Etfw">@m= taht</a> fantastic talk last week on improving internet latency, you = are in luck because here it is! <a href=3D"https://t.co/YZWjRNEVU8">https://t.co/YZWjRNEVU8</a></p>&mdash; TTIVang= uard (@TTIVanguard) <a href=3D"https://twitter.com/TTIVanguard/status/15012295024745103= 40?ref_src=3Dtwsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2022</a></blockquot= e> <script async src=3D"https://platform.twitter.c= om/widgets.js" charset=3D"utf-8"></script>


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2022 7:07 AM
To: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>; starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net; Make-= Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Cc: Yao, Lisa (US) <LYao@ttivanguard.com>; Jamie Tucker-Foltz <jtuckerfoltz@gmail.com>;= Vasu Kaker <vasuk@mi= t.edu>; Josh Mermel <joshmermel@gmail.com>
Subject: [EXT] Talk now up: How the internet really works

My talk last week at TTI Vanguard is now up on youtube. I used no slides, a= nd a bunch of new simple analogies (including the world's most elaborat= e "rickroll"!) to explain the problems videoconferencing and voic= e have with competing with web traffic, with bits about cryptography, packe= t loss, bufferbloat, fair queueing and active queue management across all o= ur access technologies today, as well as some notes as to the NTIA broadban= d programs and ongoing FCC measurements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTWViGcBlnm0

My special thanks to Len and Nancy Kleinrock, and to Lisa Yao, CEO of TTI V= anguard, for sponsoring my talk and travel. Plug: There were a bunch of ver= y interesting other talks at that conference (including one amazing one on = quantum computing that went over my head
completely) that I enjoyed greatly. A huge thx also to my volunteers, Jamie= , Vasu, and Joshua, who went the extra mile to help out.

I am of course trying to reach new audiences outside our circle with my tal= k, please reshare widely?

--
I tried to build a better future, a few times:
https://wayforward.archive.org/?sit= e=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org

Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC

DISCLAIMER: The information in this e-mail is confidential. The contents ma= y not be disclosed or used by anyone other than the addressee. If you are n= ot the intended recipient(s), any use, disclosure, copying, distribution or= any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited an= d may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please= notify us by e-mail or by telephone at +1 212-224-3300 and then delete the= e-mail and all attachments and any copies thereof. Institutional Investor = Inc. cannot accept responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of this = e-mail, as it has been transmitted over a public network. If you suspect th= at the e-mail may have been intercepted or amended, please call the sender.= Any views expressed by an individual in this e-mail do not necessarily ref= lect the views of Institutional Investor Inc. This communication is from In= stitutional Investor Inc., a company incorporated in the State of Delaware = in the United States of America and located at 1120 Avenue Of The Americas,= New York, NY 10036.
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