From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pj1-f52.google.com (mail-pj1-f52.google.com [209.85.216.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 191D93B29D for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2025 12:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pj1-f52.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-311ef4fb549so2129708a91.2 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2025 09:04:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1749225843; x=1749830643; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ugZ2NPVrhCBrQzq0fDBXfEvV/S6XaMMPD3KNAoP8470=; b=BMeocFUZ1kDMsOclEWahx/072wRT68TXAXtlQZoGdLApYKmyu0kynRfTasYgnmxtUA ZKHwTTBWM60tk4uACw+2odJ25suEto/zcL9ycAo0LoNJIjM6scVWXMzj4lZjv9Od+Exn VribItoxzNZwnmGbarsIMlGrHnWFb2vFVgjv1kCKs2gVAjV42gwj02cN5HJc+uokbqpx Dc8NxzFx36zdTp8eOq+xAHinggatQIQCt/tMZnuAZdNudfO1ON3mlGaBT2QDqSc0qese x5v3IGitASVo+o6eUELdk4RJOogQTVmrj3/CvqJvgvoVZ8pyQ6DHf1YTmkL1HZo0gPWn rM4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwOsPZG4GF9EoJi3QCLOYsZ3fKaYJD26uHgfMK9A+FlQRfvWTUL XqU80okw9fCbUEnbntOUcJgq3JI0CBHx2C8Znw4lL7Iq/4lRzEGGSQdc8nOYi3dDPIelPvWq+mA OG1UmTEM4LuyoCUn6pqRBBVUCPpDzr84= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncv2T6OV3LzZlp/ghBmM7qRhA2tsddzXwThN1dltQcGqdaGb+SsCK+yW9Mvj8U4 Ix6mExjA2kvn0LVPJvOesHM0I7UCPlqtOlWdtCOFEl7XqOwI8+nVUhscahXkmxX7i774jJFnmdD Q9ZG7y/ii9bg922JzyMG6I+hlg00JBZW4fLTgaGcyQFkzRa1+V9Hj9tw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHon6Im5fY7As5iPvrjnNgMi0kTDeg5IWEp41kZysc9PyE1sq+/naLnCR7Tgryg+fCzhbSIHEnrB5eC9oCGgFc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:1809:b0:313:3f33:6b95 with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-31347409cfdmr6560274a91.16.1749225843064; Fri, 06 Jun 2025 09:04:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: J Pan Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2025 09:03:50 -0700 X-Gm-Features: AX0GCFvd3CSzDP7uy0grIA_YU4Q7EPFLo6rxmaxEJQs0cchxAhcmfzMWNZciaw4 Message-ID: To: Spencer Sevilla Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink , Sauli Kiviranta Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] Testing airBaltic free Starlink in-flight WIFI for mining remote operations X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2025 16:04:04 -0000 we have some limited tests and data collection so far: initially they were pop'ed to departure/arrival airport's only, and now do pop handovers along the way too. need more data though -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pa= n On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 7:44=E2=80=AFAM Spencer Sevilla wrote: > > Hah, J beat me to this question! Also very interested in that exact detai= l if you happened to collect it. > > > On Jun 6, 2025, at 07:36, J Pan via Starlink wrote: > > > > Hi Sauli: nice test. do you happen to have any info about your public > > ip address while on the plane, so we can figure out its pop and pop > > handover behaviors along the way? cheers. -j > > -- > > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA= /~pan > > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 6:03=E2=80=AFAM Sauli Kiviranta via Starlink > > wrote: > >> > >> Last weekend I was flying from Austria to Riga, and got opportunity to= test Starlink enabled in-flight WIFI now freely available from AirBaltic. = While flying over Poland, I did a remote control "fuse check" test on a rob= otic camera in a Finnish mine 400m underground, some 1300km away from the p= lane. > >> > >> Scenario: I did remote operations test to control the camera in the mi= ne, with the control loop from XRTC client running through the plane WIFI (= along with the 150 other users!) to Starlink likely terminated in Poland, t= hen to our XRTC based RTSP relay server running on AWS in Sweden, all the w= ay to a Finnish mine 400m underground, where we have the mine WIFI connecte= d to a AXIS Q6135-LE PTZ camera that terminated the XRTC acceleration for t= he TCP traffic. Then naturally the full signal loop is returning back same = path in reverse with the captured live video to be shown on my laptop in th= e airplane (picture). > >> > >> > >> > >> Check the video below. What this means is that I could very well be op= erating a mining machine, drone, or any kind of robotic platform from anywh= ere, anytime, around the globe. Even if the target is full autonomy, there = will be many cases where partial autonomy is the path in-between, like I wa= s now controlling the camera in the mine. > >> > >> Video: https://x.com/sksauli/status/1929281402354147463 > >> > >> Pretty nice performance! Few hiccups in the beginning when opening the= connection, but after that it was quite smooth sailing... flying! > >> > >> I do not think people fully comprehend what Starlink is enabling! > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Sauli > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Starlink mailing list > >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >