From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=fail (Used From Domain Record) header.from=uvic.ca policy.dmarc=none Received: from mail-yw1-f172.google.com (mail-yw1-f172.google.com [209.85.128.172]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70EB465D3EA for ; Tue, 09 Sep 2025 23:13:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-yw1-f172.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-723960ded6bso48108977b3.3 for ; Tue, 09 Sep 2025 14:13:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1757452410; x=1758057210; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=v35c2Gbci1miLGPuQ621K+Ilf47Y3hU4L0AE2mGwABM=; b=ogV9al/FAZMXVUso8EDDHv+TGdk5tFscgo5vbVt6XR8e9t+cB3gT5eDxhd125K0Qly HhGkRWqxsUS1Lshv8KhiVRrNpKQ83bHjP7jzzhJTtvKwFhc7/AR1UgYQEYPzmu0uO9Fn Gf/jzYbvDdO4nbeVb2mjxopTYNPckDF5o83YKpA/Eo+PYV/ZmFDWxFo7o48X+rbi5MJF /qoiHMDu03K8NE+HlT+XOjuNi8Gw796npxs6rdGdkChVuOaCWAFPaE7VvECL0lxFUU+C 89jgCGD01rj/vIRcUNcf9q7ObDBshr0GU+rf+N+fZ/YbHfLnc8JiUugLepRF2plY8cDm MU5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yzlf7P3bFdidWihCG8Aduv4Qwg67US1l/qDHWnwb4pdD6U2BvWY BBvVgX2cCtNA2fHiimT+rGT9RdQyxS6cA1JvmUMmATrkyXBOMoFRZx0PO6lXq2H/wyQSbl4cXbX NS3UBpHr14G8vkCavIhU3EZkQoEslXQq1Xg== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncslcXENWB7tmMD5zyMtaZGmvUEoAm8Pj1KmoKWpJFPPxQqvm0QauMPF9fBx5pm eInGduRAH4bQRF/uRcNW71FwDUk1l5LOae8No1L9AfV34YlBwsy27B6hH+ZpjL8hkpTso2w2VV+ NiGeZQ/jPsrK+HVJAmIg2wQ5Aeq/1RAW4SeOxKrdkIqZpVM7gz7R+C6OOgtP+GWtKfMVa1e4B2v svwBXE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFVE1vqdiEJQ4DnhBIiLoeTO8+y/NFpMu8Ppo0bmFz6XQ82n4nFhM1hm+tv0hdX3Z4BafDWXi1sIZbScbMJkCo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:30a:b0:71f:a867:3fa8 with SMTP id 00721157ae682-727f3686507mr127644927b3.20.1757452410041; Tue, 09 Sep 2025 14:13:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: J Pan Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:13:19 -0700 X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXyhDVdBhMsWiuw0vuBHyQ5SEB8sJg5xw8kOq3oxeL2i7MEAFNLDkSfJLLs Message-ID: To: Sauli Kiviranta Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: Q2CIGQOFOUD6T6S54GXPO4Y5OSRLNJVM X-Message-ID-Hash: Q2CIGQOFOUD6T6S54GXPO4Y5OSRLNJVM X-MailFrom: panatuvicdotca@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Testing 4K live video over Starlink with added +10% packet loss List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: that's really cool. most tcp cannot handle 10% packet loss. what's video datarate/latency? -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pa= n On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 2:05=E2=80=AFPM Sauli Kiviranta = wrote: > > This is all just TCP, that was kind of thew idea. Not yet with FEC though= , working on that, just rusty good old TCP. > > Best regards, > Sauli > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 12:02=E2=80=AFAM J Pan wrote: >> >> fast.com measures tcp performance and you used udp to get the best out >> of a lossy link? spacex uses multiple starlink dishes on a launch >> vehicle and pick whatever made through too >> -- >> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/= ~pan >> >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 1:50=E2=80=AFPM Sauli Kiviranta via Starlink >> wrote: >> > >> > We start to get somewhere that is what I would say cool level. Our tar= get >> > is Ulrich Spiedel storm conditions measured over the Gabriella cyclone= with >> > Starlink. >> > >> > https://x.com/sksauli/status/1964349734304301268 >> > >> > We have also now test running just accelerating all data, so we can ge= t >> > same effects for better utilization rate of the link. >> > >> > Anyone know what kind of bit error rates or packet loss levels are in = the >> > streams for SpaceX launches? Usually they look very very stable. >> > >> > Anyone want to test this? Send me email sauli.kiviranta@xrtc.io >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Sauli >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Starlink mailing list -- starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> > To unsubscribe send an email to starlink-leave@lists.bufferbloat.net