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From: J Pan <Pan@uvic.ca>
To: Jim Forster <jim@connectivitycap.com>
Cc: Inemesit Affia <inemesitaffia@gmail.com>,
	Starlink <Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Question on Startlink density
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 06:38:35 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHn=e4hGd3UKv=tW1qqnsUxPYtMkn3ZUzkkiHvaHP4Ca=zNZ+g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5250C178-F909-4A4C-9724-5862B67D6CE1@connectivitycap.com>

it's not only about the power density. it's more about the satellite
(and ground station) capacity, and interference among these dishes and
with other devices in the same frequency band

only starlink knows for sure its current capacity. we can do some
inference and envelope estimation. if you have 100 households nearby,
a (mini) "community gateway" might be better
--
J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pan

On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 12:05 AM Jim Forster <jim@connectivitycap.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, that’s helpful.
>
> Would is also be the case that “100 dishes in 3km^2” is ok?  That’s 100x the power density…
>
>   — Jim
>
> On Nov 15, 2023, at 9:07 AM, J Pan <Pan@uvic.ca> wrote:
>
> an old starlink capacity rule of thumb is "100 dishes in a 300 km^2
> cell". not sure about the latest as there are more satellites now, and
> starlink can shuffle beam among nearby cells too
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-15 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-14 21:01 [Starlink] run a few scripts behind your starlink dish? J Pan
2023-11-15  6:12 ` [Starlink] Question on Startlink density Jim Forster
2023-11-15  6:55   ` Inemesit Affia
2023-11-15  6:56     ` Inemesit Affia
2023-11-15  7:01     ` Jim Forster
2023-11-15  7:04       ` David Lang
2023-11-15  7:07       ` J Pan
2023-11-15  8:05         ` Jim Forster
2023-11-15 14:38           ` J Pan [this message]
2023-11-15  7:03   ` David Lang

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