From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=; dkim=pass header.d=uvic.ca; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=pass (Used From Domain Record) header.from=uvic.ca policy.dmarc=reject Received: from argus.comp.uvic.ca (argus.comp.uvic.ca [142.104.177.237]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 696A8D6A0B6 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2026 04:54:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-yx1-f49.google.com (mail-yx1-f49.google.com [74.125.224.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by argus.comp.uvic.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 61Q3scuu056795 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2026 19:54:40 -0800 Received: by mail-yx1-f49.google.com with SMTP id 956f58d0204a3-64c9ebd1369so257587d50.1 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2026 19:54:39 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwdlUJCaSWOsnsy7SUNae4zYMrhjURL4HLPEbtAGhMsOl82h2HQ 8b9o0HGYBKH6Lo95HkruitsFPS7VqaC37nR/wbsG8giuWySrYitu0AOz5WjcjHj+VgZb3PR8Rp/ PItb3Cqw4mDk0HpSW6qvYbDmflEp/Cwg= X-Received: by 2002:a05:690e:408c:b0:64a:f8b9:b892 with SMTP id 956f58d0204a3-64cb7c5c151mr680151d50.52.1772078078104; Wed, 25 Feb 2026 19:54:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <57898af2-e183-4adb-83ef-1755121a55aa@auckland.ac.nz> In-Reply-To: <57898af2-e183-4adb-83ef-1755121a55aa@auckland.ac.nz> From: J Pan Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2026 19:54:27 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AaiRm51JA1VujVRcC3CNoiDhzWPzKOzJ-yQvTwi1F96SgDouGRtSXWYe_Gem4r8 Message-ID: To: Ulrich Speidel Cc: "starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-UVic-Virus-Scanned: OK - Passed virus scan by ClamAV (clamd) on argus X-UVic-Scan: argus.comp.uvic.ca filter_version 3.7.9 X-UVic-Outbound-Scan: argus.comp.uvic.ca Not_scanned_Remote DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=uvic.ca; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=lasuADhkfoaL8DaLB91zL+cyVOrh3ZOL+q02RliRqto=; b=GreXpVmeMlWbKmrVjFcwJG7zVW26oGDkdco+IEa3Gw8L6xrX3JySC6hE+uTbzsTiLp98Pd6eIkDSiaRLALdJwH8UgCn4+0kimIQjr3BT+f3FixDrFt0Q3CPb/F2hVc3vTkVQTgImjOimSHtA78nPPfe+tliUybsRzAgWkt6XFkA= X-UVic-Spam-Scan: argus.comp.uvic.ca No_recips_rejected X-UVic-Spam-Status: No X-UVic-Spam-Score: 0.92 SPF_FAIL,SPF_HELO_NONE X-UVic-Spam-Level: Spam-Level X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 Message-ID-Hash: YWPFVD3WPBX336U2624VYDPFDZSKDMHC X-Message-ID-Hash: YWPFVD3WPBX336U2624VYDPFDZSKDMHC X-MailFrom: Pan@uvic.ca X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Starlink D2D observation - fwiw List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: oh, take care. you could help us do some more in-depth tests on dtc as well. safety first! -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pa= n On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 7:43=E2=80=AFPM Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote: > > Last week, I found myself driving into a disaster area - I was on leave > and the southern North Island of NZ got hit by the worst weather in > three years (since Cyclone Gabrielle, basically). We were booked to stay > for a few nights at a Department of Conservation (DOC) lodge in a remote > valley north of Palmerston North. > > Access roads to the area are all precarious - potential for slips, > flooding, washouts, bridge damage are ubiquitous there. > > My initial fears that we might have to flee the place overnight were > assuaged the moment I saw that the lodge was well above river level. To > our surprise, there was 4G terrestrial coverage also. The lodge has > mains power, too. On site: My wife, me, a Kiwi tramper, and two French > cyclists. > > Forecast was for 140-180 mm (~6-7 inches) of rain overnight. So we > weren't overly surprised to find that the lodge had no power when we > woke up in the morning. We also soon found out that the 4G coverage had > gone. We had a mains+battery-operated fridge for food with us and a bit > of battery lighting, and there was a woodfire for warmth and cooking, > alas it initially appeared that we would have no water - the rainwater > tanks only release their treasure via pump... until we discovered a > hidden tap later in the day. > > After breakfast, the local farmer from up the road turned up to let us > know that all roads out were blocked. He is also a radio ham and had > limited UHF comms out. At that point, I discovered that my phone now > showed One NZ SpaceX as the network - even though I don't have a > compatible plan. So it appears that One NZ turned the service on in the > disaster area (which is very sparsely populated). > > The service appeared to be text only (no WhatsApp or anything IP-based > worked). My phone (Samsung A56) was the only one of five in the lodge > that worked with the service, similarly, among three phones in the > farmer's household, only one - a recent iPhone - worked. Sending a text > message took around a minute each. I only sent a few - to our emergency > contact, a friend who we'd said we'd go visit the next day, and one on > behalf of one of the other lodge guests. So it's a small data set. > > As expected, coverage was much better outdoors, although it seemed to > occasionally manage to pick up the network through a window as well. > Sending text from indoors didn't work for me at all. But having that > option was nice. > > One road opened again the next morning, and the power came back on later > that day, along with the 4G coverage. > > -- > **************************************************************** > Dr. Ulrich Speidel > > School of Computer Science > > Room 303S.594 (City Campus) > > The University of Auckland > u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz > http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~ulrich/ > **************************************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list -- starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > To unsubscribe send an email to starlink-leave@lists.bufferbloat.net