From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yb1-f173.google.com (mail-yb1-f173.google.com [209.85.219.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5977F3B29D for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2025 19:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f173.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e589c258663so4488625276.1 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:25:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1742253937; x=1742858737; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=qSTh9o3LADjL05CSaIOZ1Qw3DRM9GaD60Hj/KaZRoUs=; b=kI9Vjk3gVdpiH4SUD/HRxAlSyV0QbX7jJ/83jEmbTjp9afV1fEcE14D5+xGpZ2Shm1 JrIoUXSHwGul9486l5hgSCgDrxXRF4n4I1edHurdvcZj4Omc12X4Zs4olVys6E4FNrQs +vIocwHk+CdE/Xee2rYNpJe486WIrxOB5WJqxn6VbMNIEI+e9QOqRMpKbOBAW4KXi7jl QlWAJQDUiwFlgtYPYM6wAzrm6NSF4371pRqxic538VGBoF8sbzSyGnt/f7bRhOY45Cox VJxlCvDS451lZgzRnCbcZH4yvL8bPeSZi08HJw5/jQqmPOgMeieOk+eADzELpQ1/odrn S+Ow== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCWmqYeRVZZTajPPP799X6C7VAGcA05d+YxRnN8AFVyuosUzTVnLhFKTx76FSBow0kJjPWfL6aQ5JA==@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx9ddLHdK69l93MOJFOZUoap3oCt0ciF67VFR9G6xzCJwurWYkn CPC2/86cCWkpEl+WOlyy2TV9fhhsszHYaNXe89NNVQauf6j3NluDZu+8Zm1Ur6eTF4YrVjdL3l2 9S3gsYjoFxFscD6B4vU5+DhiuTzqqtw== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncsjk6PBOkdb6JqeSjv9Wb4xyCp47jQAGbbIKKy/LdsF5+kPBdtN9sI48ZLahir Kx//OmqWPKL9juSjg7ZpHkFa/BzgfK80BAdZiWeiUdMImAtb64az47aAT6sydbkFk1BZCNXFYHY jpFEfgETd8pN6tyE44YgAnR3z43w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGucuNQ/KuK6nZrn7mL2mdsVVWtTnysqkvIHoo16oCo1fgfr2zFAsmUZrju9LiibURP7ipV1ffEUuLOYvCZcPQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:154c:b0:e5d:d6b8:231d with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e63f65ef047mr18097992276.46.1742253936848; Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:25:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6nn799r0-q896-4osn-23no-733oorno0p55@ynat.uz> <8f2941f9-6600-4981-a76a-2a7a3f10f451@falco.ca> <11s370q0-ooqs-2sp1-5qn1-qprqsqn3s9rn@ynat.uz> In-Reply-To: <11s370q0-ooqs-2sp1-5qn1-qprqsqn3s9rn@ynat.uz> From: J Pan Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:25:25 -0700 X-Gm-Features: AQ5f1JquzPZ95sXfpXOeOU4o627QHtW7HJulFAwiG8-vJiSSYDkwx-CzJVWLzEo Message-ID: To: David Lang Cc: Daniel AJ Sokolov , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] Alphabet spins off Starlink competitor Taara X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 23:25:37 -0000 taara is more like a laser bridge for point-to-point, mostly stationary nodes, on the ground? -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pa= n On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 4:10=E2=80=AFPM David Lang via Starlink wrote: > > Daniel AJ Sokolov wrote: > > > On 2025-03-17 at 15:50, David Lang via Starlink wrote: > >> > >> but the claim that it will be far cheaper than Starlink?? that tower a= nd > >> a ground station that tracks the satellites in real time is going to b= e > >> FAR more expensive than a dishy. Since it's going to be in motion at a= ll > >> times, it's got mechanical parts to wear out, and physically re-aiming= a > >> laser between connections (on both ends) is going to be a lot slower > >> than electronic aiming of a phased array antenna. > > > > Could'nt you have a phased laser array? > > nope, the lasers are far more directional and don't interact with each ot= her > enough. > > David Lang > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink