From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw1-f174.google.com (mail-yw1-f174.google.com [209.85.128.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F7443B29D for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2023 02:07:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-yw1-f174.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-5bf5d6eaf60so68797127b3.2 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2023 23:07:38 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1700032058; x=1700636858; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=2xbCaExRlDtxhrgyRjWnp47ymcusq9Zl0TMGfbyGz6o=; b=FlSHM0fQcZv+jXfYdgMaeBllZzDDzWgikexmJ0VdZY4IiEzxNiNmu9C7CUhj519Pak O9kCa4AltwpE9AgUocJZUY8TWQjh8ICII/GNU1q/YwNQlek/BObqBn2/QLQqo/OSgaIW jqEh31EmhtlKLXzeJzsrY6pe/FAuD6AJkzpfeug2Vo0UQ14ASQ/n6uuenttUgrKVkH2z ir9wG/GKgLIDba/aAhkv54YTAVQ4i0yM7Q0XrvgVJLYsrYVq2Hmd+xtAZXvOt8dccAG6 ll7kBRKAt6rnSi910YF9LV6JqN3hXSBYiRbioEXBI9xBIRZ/20ckU2yiqzgHKeeFRoMM CyJw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyNJTCBlyFJL2KXNwX8XQXzzRbxXM2Mmkv9sVoOsDa0VsgjT8Fm wD2eQmUJLvrqhY8atszeYRyRi+uFnHvR64dBg1lvL4ne X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHGj0svdDdKjfDOhwwMFQef7r/nUQypf2zaNcKsRgBs6n3ZYpu8chfBFhPQ/4NhmeGWcOL1TPLGQdR33GRTnsU= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:e2c7:0:b0:5ad:47ba:fa3a with SMTP id l190-20020a0de2c7000000b005ad47bafa3amr12353160ywe.43.1700032058071; Tue, 14 Nov 2023 23:07:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <34D160E7-6C8F-4882-B1C3-570DF3D3854F@connectivitycap.com> <061BCB88-D7AB-4707-AC29-66968AD13480@connectivitycap.com> In-Reply-To: <061BCB88-D7AB-4707-AC29-66968AD13480@connectivitycap.com> From: J Pan Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 23:07:27 -0800 Message-ID: To: Jim Forster Cc: Inemesit Affia , Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] Question on Startlink density X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 07:07:38 -0000 an old starlink capacity rule of thumb is "100 dishes in a 300 km^2 cell". not sure about the latest as there are more satellites now, and starlink can shuffle beam among nearby cells too -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pa= n On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 11:02=E2=80=AFPM Jim Forster via Starlink wrote: > > Oh, sorry, I was not clear. The question is could they support 100 termin= als along a mile. Each a separate consumer residential account. > > On Nov 15, 2023, at 8:55=E2=80=AFAM, Inemesit Affia wrote: > > What you're planning might we'll be against the Starlink TOS. > > Just contact https://old.reddit.com/user/millijuna. He's done something s= imilar > > Beyond that networks are networks. You estimate your peak traffic, find o= ut the worst case speed on starlink and get software/hardware to shape & pr= ioritize traffic/users so phone calls work when the WAN can't do video. Che= ck out libreqos > > Also the owner of starlink.sx is on this mailing list and has experience = with this sort of thing > > > Yeah, I=E2=80=99ve asked Mike :-) > > =E2=80=94 Jim > > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023, 7:13 AM Jim Forster via Starlink wrote: >> >> >> Does Starlink=E2=80=99s beam forming support delivering services to abou= t 100 home stretched over one mile? The place in question would like to do= fiber, but it=E2=80=99s in a senstive area, so getting permits is tricky (= cannot use any previously undisturbed land), and so the fiber project has d= ragged on. Now SL is available and some are getting it. That=E2=80=99s fi= ne, but could it support 100 over one linear mile? >> >> Thanks, >> >> =E2=80=94 Jim >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink