From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yb1-f181.google.com (mail-yb1-f181.google.com [209.85.219.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1369B3CB37 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 10:42:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f181.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-dfe43dca3bfso4435429276.0 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 07:42:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1719240131; x=1719844931; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=SHiIKmzP0yE5zKAuHcQoAf4gkQorMnXgYmDE5GzntOQ=; b=kQ/c74EU6QfD00geXXcLBXucWiJsMqlV+ZV2Bl3C2eBwvOIAvfnv7r+EfJMmwbqomX lSnSr0Bqi1XjnEL7sjKAoiIo1iOJutC2RUrIK0/a4g6MJXXL/TZWlxlsJL3SmFLZtUE9 Sh+pC0Taib90zkaUGmFuII/AJnffOC2mG+91RKQp3xYw3EHk8XpMEa+qKxGnwvS4QW3m 4a7it0ClGWx9VTdrAt8LpZcvz7iRJN1vRWXeVVbjDJgW2EqUTW8xxpscchJr+qkucyKw E9w6M/ddUtPsTmSOPcPTNhu29RKUWFyk2TW01PB04DjvEW3qfUY9iWoV7s/W5dvrXub3 8V7A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxJSKw6R3hXuYrT+zZ/GZZcQgyJXGAp3Xw5wKMPc8ZJYaK5geZh kWgAkznLU81avZdeKbdPCLypUi+hMxzhZNLxQxgQgn4FWJAb/KbKKsJRy7ucEZvE2rU4Kbkxmyq NaFjhIOG6LlZZl/+hXOUoxWLMRQT7Fg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEV3h3VRsjJg5pduVTqM9FuRkyNOigRzwxq1rpT6XbY1O4cHJ/Xotf76b35CVzz6myrjqheMuGQsvA00a0C3SU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:302:b0:e02:b8ee:8d25 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e0300fcc678mr4464540276.26.1719240131312; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 07:42:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: J Pan Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 07:42:00 -0700 Message-ID: To: Inemesit Affia Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] Jamaican Starlink Outages and a hint of shared infrastructure X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 14:42:12 -0000 can you give the reference to the complaint so we can dive into it a bit? once the user packet reaches the satellite, it needs to get to the ground (sooner than later according to starlink's current practice), which may run into the same fiber to tunnel the packet from the landing ground station to the user's home pop. once at the pop, most starlink pop's now have at least two neighbor pop's, so theoretically, starlink has the capability to route packets to a different landing ground station through inter-sat links and another pop, if it can arrange so properly -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pa= n On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 3:40=E2=80=AFAM Inemesit Affia via Starlink wrote: > > I don't live in Jamaica but I just saw a user complain his service goes o= ut at the same time his local provider does. > > The provider is Flow Jamaica and they seem to get service via C&W Caribbe= an according to another poster. > > Service going out together likely means there's shared infrastructure. An= d buying Starlink as backup and having it fail hard without rerouting sever= al times in a row is below expectations. > > There's another provider in Jamaica. Digicel that seems to have separate = infrastructure but that might not be value for money to have alternative co= nnectivity. > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink