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* [Starlink] leo-sat-net testbed
@ 2024-10-15  6:23 J Pan
  2025-04-02  6:12 ` J Pan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: J Pan @ 2024-10-15  6:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht via Starlink

Hello All: we are putting together a proposal for a leo-sat-net
testbed in canada (node locations due to funding constraints) but open
to the research community worldwide. are you interested in using such
a platform? your experience, feedback and comments are welcome too.
cheers.  -j

"2nd-generation low-earth-orbit (LEO) satellite networks (LSNs),
exemplified by SpaceX’s Starlink, Eutelsat’s OneWeb, Amazon’s Project
Kuiper and Telesat (Canada)’s Lightspeed, promise to revolutionize the
Internet access around the world on all Earth surface and above. Thus
the research community has an urgent need to understand them
specifically and further improve LSNs in general. However, many
researchers are limited by the access to such systems due to
availability, location, financial and expertise constraints. With a
team of researchers across Canada specialized in computer networks,
distributed systems, satellite communications, security and privacy,
and cloud computing, this proposal builds a coast-to-coast-to-coast
LSN testbed for Canada, leveraging the team’s experience particularly
in building individual LSN test nodes and federating through remote
access, bootstrapping the team’s research in LSN performance,
reliability and security, and fostering collaboration in the research
community and with industry across Canada and beyond. Specifically,
the testbed will deploy at least one LSN testbed node in each province
and territory of Canada, ideally in north, remote and indigenous
regions, given the geo-diversity needed for LSN research. The testbed
nodes also provide Internet access to the hosts and their local
communities if needed, given the separate virtual local area networks
and end-to-end encryption without compromising user privacy, for at
least one year supported by the proposal with following years
supported by local initiatives through the economic development
enabled by the Internet access and external sponsorship. The testbed
will be remotely and centrally managed through the regional and
national centers hosted by the team, maximizing the uptime and utility
of all testbed nodes, and scheduling and prioritizing measurement and
test tasks submitted by researchers and collaborators within or beyond
the team, similar to what Planetlab contributed to the distributed
systems research in early 2000s. The testbed code and measurement data
will be open sourced and released to the research community, enabling
trace-driven simulation and statistical analysis worldwide, liberating
Internet access in general and specifically LSN research traditionally
limited to population centers and financially viable institutions.
With Canadian users at priority, the testbed will also federate with
other similar ones in the US and around the world, e.g., LEOScope led
by the University of Surrey, to have a true global coverage while
allowing international users to explore Canadian geographic and
demographic features, including those in arctic regions. The testbed
strives for self-sustainability after initial investment by providing
a leveled test range for LSN service providers to compete, a training
ground for highly qualified personnel for Canadian industry, and a
playground to attract K-12 and particularly indigenous kids to have a
technical career."
--
J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pan

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* Re: [Starlink] leo-sat-net testbed
  2024-10-15  6:23 [Starlink] leo-sat-net testbed J Pan
@ 2025-04-02  6:12 ` J Pan
  2025-04-02  6:51   ` Frantisek Borsik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: J Pan @ 2025-04-02  6:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht via Starlink

our testbed is approved today and will be named after dave in his
honor (a global computer network needs a global people network of
collaborators) if his family ok's. can anyone help?
--
J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pan

On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:23 PM J Pan <Pan@uvic.ca> wrote:
>
> Hello All: we are putting together a proposal for a leo-sat-net
> testbed in canada (node locations due to funding constraints) but open
> to the research community worldwide. are you interested in using such
> a platform? your experience, feedback and comments are welcome too.
> cheers.  -j
>
> "2nd-generation low-earth-orbit (LEO) satellite networks (LSNs),
> exemplified by SpaceX’s Starlink, Eutelsat’s OneWeb, Amazon’s Project
> Kuiper and Telesat (Canada)’s Lightspeed, promise to revolutionize the
> Internet access around the world on all Earth surface and above. Thus
> the research community has an urgent need to understand them
> specifically and further improve LSNs in general. However, many
> researchers are limited by the access to such systems due to
> availability, location, financial and expertise constraints. With a
> team of researchers across Canada specialized in computer networks,
> distributed systems, satellite communications, security and privacy,
> and cloud computing, this proposal builds a coast-to-coast-to-coast
> LSN testbed for Canada, leveraging the team’s experience particularly
> in building individual LSN test nodes and federating through remote
> access, bootstrapping the team’s research in LSN performance,
> reliability and security, and fostering collaboration in the research
> community and with industry across Canada and beyond. Specifically,
> the testbed will deploy at least one LSN testbed node in each province
> and territory of Canada, ideally in north, remote and indigenous
> regions, given the geo-diversity needed for LSN research. The testbed
> nodes also provide Internet access to the hosts and their local
> communities if needed, given the separate virtual local area networks
> and end-to-end encryption without compromising user privacy, for at
> least one year supported by the proposal with following years
> supported by local initiatives through the economic development
> enabled by the Internet access and external sponsorship. The testbed
> will be remotely and centrally managed through the regional and
> national centers hosted by the team, maximizing the uptime and utility
> of all testbed nodes, and scheduling and prioritizing measurement and
> test tasks submitted by researchers and collaborators within or beyond
> the team, similar to what Planetlab contributed to the distributed
> systems research in early 2000s. The testbed code and measurement data
> will be open sourced and released to the research community, enabling
> trace-driven simulation and statistical analysis worldwide, liberating
> Internet access in general and specifically LSN research traditionally
> limited to population centers and financially viable institutions.
> With Canadian users at priority, the testbed will also federate with
> other similar ones in the US and around the world, e.g., LEOScope led
> by the University of Surrey, to have a true global coverage while
> allowing international users to explore Canadian geographic and
> demographic features, including those in arctic regions. The testbed
> strives for self-sustainability after initial investment by providing
> a leveled test range for LSN service providers to compete, a training
> ground for highly qualified personnel for Canadian industry, and a
> playground to attract K-12 and particularly indigenous kids to have a
> technical career."
> --
> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pan

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* Re: [Starlink] leo-sat-net testbed
  2025-04-02  6:12 ` J Pan
@ 2025-04-02  6:51   ` Frantisek Borsik
  2025-04-03 16:43     ` J Pan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Frantisek Borsik @ 2025-04-02  6:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: J Pan; +Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink, Herbert Wolverson, Robert Chacón

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Hey J Pan,

Dave's colleague from LibreQoS here, we will absolutely ask right away.
Forwarding this email to Dave's brother and girlfriend with you on CC.

Thank you very much for this kind offer. Much appreciated.

All the best,

Frank

Frantisek (Frank) Borsik



https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik

Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714

iMessage, mobile: +420775230885

Skype: casioa5302ca

frantisek.borsik@gmail.com


On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:13 AM J Pan via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> our testbed is approved today and will be named after dave in his
> honor (a global computer network needs a global people network of
> collaborators) if his family ok's. can anyone help?
> --
> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA,
> Web.UVic.CA/~pan
>
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:23 PM J Pan <Pan@uvic.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Hello All: we are putting together a proposal for a leo-sat-net
> > testbed in canada (node locations due to funding constraints) but open
> > to the research community worldwide. are you interested in using such
> > a platform? your experience, feedback and comments are welcome too.
> > cheers.  -j
> >
> > "2nd-generation low-earth-orbit (LEO) satellite networks (LSNs),
> > exemplified by SpaceX’s Starlink, Eutelsat’s OneWeb, Amazon’s Project
> > Kuiper and Telesat (Canada)’s Lightspeed, promise to revolutionize the
> > Internet access around the world on all Earth surface and above. Thus
> > the research community has an urgent need to understand them
> > specifically and further improve LSNs in general. However, many
> > researchers are limited by the access to such systems due to
> > availability, location, financial and expertise constraints. With a
> > team of researchers across Canada specialized in computer networks,
> > distributed systems, satellite communications, security and privacy,
> > and cloud computing, this proposal builds a coast-to-coast-to-coast
> > LSN testbed for Canada, leveraging the team’s experience particularly
> > in building individual LSN test nodes and federating through remote
> > access, bootstrapping the team’s research in LSN performance,
> > reliability and security, and fostering collaboration in the research
> > community and with industry across Canada and beyond. Specifically,
> > the testbed will deploy at least one LSN testbed node in each province
> > and territory of Canada, ideally in north, remote and indigenous
> > regions, given the geo-diversity needed for LSN research. The testbed
> > nodes also provide Internet access to the hosts and their local
> > communities if needed, given the separate virtual local area networks
> > and end-to-end encryption without compromising user privacy, for at
> > least one year supported by the proposal with following years
> > supported by local initiatives through the economic development
> > enabled by the Internet access and external sponsorship. The testbed
> > will be remotely and centrally managed through the regional and
> > national centers hosted by the team, maximizing the uptime and utility
> > of all testbed nodes, and scheduling and prioritizing measurement and
> > test tasks submitted by researchers and collaborators within or beyond
> > the team, similar to what Planetlab contributed to the distributed
> > systems research in early 2000s. The testbed code and measurement data
> > will be open sourced and released to the research community, enabling
> > trace-driven simulation and statistical analysis worldwide, liberating
> > Internet access in general and specifically LSN research traditionally
> > limited to population centers and financially viable institutions.
> > With Canadian users at priority, the testbed will also federate with
> > other similar ones in the US and around the world, e.g., LEOScope led
> > by the University of Surrey, to have a true global coverage while
> > allowing international users to explore Canadian geographic and
> > demographic features, including those in arctic regions. The testbed
> > strives for self-sustainability after initial investment by providing
> > a leveled test range for LSN service providers to compete, a training
> > ground for highly qualified personnel for Canadian industry, and a
> > playground to attract K-12 and particularly indigenous kids to have a
> > technical career."
> > --
> > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA,
> Web.UVic.CA/~pan
> _______________________________________________
> Starlink mailing list
> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>

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* Re: [Starlink] leo-sat-net testbed
  2025-04-02  6:51   ` Frantisek Borsik
@ 2025-04-03 16:43     ` J Pan
  2025-04-03 16:47       ` Frantisek Borsik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: J Pan @ 2025-04-03 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Frantisek Borsik
  Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink, Herbert Wolverson, Robert Chacón

Thanks Frantisek: glad to see dave's brother's blessing on naming the
testbed after dave, and i will follow up with them there. more people
taking networking for granted shall know dave and his stories as well
--
J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pan

On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 11:49 PM Frantisek Borsik
<frantisek.borsik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey J Pan,
>
> Dave's colleague from LibreQoS here, we will absolutely ask right away.
> Forwarding this email to Dave's brother and girlfriend with you on CC.
>
> Thank you very much for this kind offer. Much appreciated.
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
>
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>
> Skype: casioa5302ca
>
> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:13 AM J Pan via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>> our testbed is approved today and will be named after dave in his
>> honor (a global computer network needs a global people network of
>> collaborators) if his family ok's. can anyone help?
>> --
>> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pan
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:23 PM J Pan <Pan@uvic.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello All: we are putting together a proposal for a leo-sat-net
>> > testbed in canada (node locations due to funding constraints) but open
>> > to the research community worldwide. are you interested in using such
>> > a platform? your experience, feedback and comments are welcome too.
>> > cheers.  -j
>> >
>> > "2nd-generation low-earth-orbit (LEO) satellite networks (LSNs),
>> > exemplified by SpaceX’s Starlink, Eutelsat’s OneWeb, Amazon’s Project
>> > Kuiper and Telesat (Canada)’s Lightspeed, promise to revolutionize the
>> > Internet access around the world on all Earth surface and above. Thus
>> > the research community has an urgent need to understand them
>> > specifically and further improve LSNs in general. However, many
>> > researchers are limited by the access to such systems due to
>> > availability, location, financial and expertise constraints. With a
>> > team of researchers across Canada specialized in computer networks,
>> > distributed systems, satellite communications, security and privacy,
>> > and cloud computing, this proposal builds a coast-to-coast-to-coast
>> > LSN testbed for Canada, leveraging the team’s experience particularly
>> > in building individual LSN test nodes and federating through remote
>> > access, bootstrapping the team’s research in LSN performance,
>> > reliability and security, and fostering collaboration in the research
>> > community and with industry across Canada and beyond. Specifically,
>> > the testbed will deploy at least one LSN testbed node in each province
>> > and territory of Canada, ideally in north, remote and indigenous
>> > regions, given the geo-diversity needed for LSN research. The testbed
>> > nodes also provide Internet access to the hosts and their local
>> > communities if needed, given the separate virtual local area networks
>> > and end-to-end encryption without compromising user privacy, for at
>> > least one year supported by the proposal with following years
>> > supported by local initiatives through the economic development
>> > enabled by the Internet access and external sponsorship. The testbed
>> > will be remotely and centrally managed through the regional and
>> > national centers hosted by the team, maximizing the uptime and utility
>> > of all testbed nodes, and scheduling and prioritizing measurement and
>> > test tasks submitted by researchers and collaborators within or beyond
>> > the team, similar to what Planetlab contributed to the distributed
>> > systems research in early 2000s. The testbed code and measurement data
>> > will be open sourced and released to the research community, enabling
>> > trace-driven simulation and statistical analysis worldwide, liberating
>> > Internet access in general and specifically LSN research traditionally
>> > limited to population centers and financially viable institutions.
>> > With Canadian users at priority, the testbed will also federate with
>> > other similar ones in the US and around the world, e.g., LEOScope led
>> > by the University of Surrey, to have a true global coverage while
>> > allowing international users to explore Canadian geographic and
>> > demographic features, including those in arctic regions. The testbed
>> > strives for self-sustainability after initial investment by providing
>> > a leveled test range for LSN service providers to compete, a training
>> > ground for highly qualified personnel for Canadian industry, and a
>> > playground to attract K-12 and particularly indigenous kids to have a
>> > technical career."
>> > --
>> > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pan
>> _______________________________________________
>> Starlink mailing list
>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink

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* Re: [Starlink] leo-sat-net testbed
  2025-04-03 16:43     ` J Pan
@ 2025-04-03 16:47       ` Frantisek Borsik
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Frantisek Borsik @ 2025-04-03 16:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: J Pan; +Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink, Herbert Wolverson, Robert Chacón

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Thank you very much for this, J Pan.

Very much appreciated!

All the best,

Frank

Frantisek (Frank) Borsik



https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik

Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714

iMessage, mobile: +420775230885

Skype: casioa5302ca

frantisek.borsik@gmail.com


On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 6:43 PM J Pan <Pan@uvic.ca> wrote:

> Thanks Frantisek: glad to see dave's brother's blessing on naming the
> testbed after dave, and i will follow up with them there. more people
> taking networking for granted shall know dave and his stories as well
> --
> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA,
> Web.UVic.CA/~pan
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 11:49 PM Frantisek Borsik
> <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey J Pan,
> >
> > Dave's colleague from LibreQoS here, we will absolutely ask right away.
> > Forwarding this email to Dave's brother and girlfriend with you on CC.
> >
> > Thank you very much for this kind offer. Much appreciated.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
> >
> > Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
> >
> > iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
> >
> > Skype: casioa5302ca
> >
> > frantisek.borsik@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:13 AM J Pan via Starlink <
> starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> our testbed is approved today and will be named after dave in his
> >> honor (a global computer network needs a global people network of
> >> collaborators) if his family ok's. can anyone help?
> >> --
> >> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA,
> Web.UVic.CA/~pan
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:23 PM J Pan <Pan@uvic.ca> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello All: we are putting together a proposal for a leo-sat-net
> >> > testbed in canada (node locations due to funding constraints) but open
> >> > to the research community worldwide. are you interested in using such
> >> > a platform? your experience, feedback and comments are welcome too.
> >> > cheers.  -j
> >> >
> >> > "2nd-generation low-earth-orbit (LEO) satellite networks (LSNs),
> >> > exemplified by SpaceX’s Starlink, Eutelsat’s OneWeb, Amazon’s Project
> >> > Kuiper and Telesat (Canada)’s Lightspeed, promise to revolutionize the
> >> > Internet access around the world on all Earth surface and above. Thus
> >> > the research community has an urgent need to understand them
> >> > specifically and further improve LSNs in general. However, many
> >> > researchers are limited by the access to such systems due to
> >> > availability, location, financial and expertise constraints. With a
> >> > team of researchers across Canada specialized in computer networks,
> >> > distributed systems, satellite communications, security and privacy,
> >> > and cloud computing, this proposal builds a coast-to-coast-to-coast
> >> > LSN testbed for Canada, leveraging the team’s experience particularly
> >> > in building individual LSN test nodes and federating through remote
> >> > access, bootstrapping the team’s research in LSN performance,
> >> > reliability and security, and fostering collaboration in the research
> >> > community and with industry across Canada and beyond. Specifically,
> >> > the testbed will deploy at least one LSN testbed node in each province
> >> > and territory of Canada, ideally in north, remote and indigenous
> >> > regions, given the geo-diversity needed for LSN research. The testbed
> >> > nodes also provide Internet access to the hosts and their local
> >> > communities if needed, given the separate virtual local area networks
> >> > and end-to-end encryption without compromising user privacy, for at
> >> > least one year supported by the proposal with following years
> >> > supported by local initiatives through the economic development
> >> > enabled by the Internet access and external sponsorship. The testbed
> >> > will be remotely and centrally managed through the regional and
> >> > national centers hosted by the team, maximizing the uptime and utility
> >> > of all testbed nodes, and scheduling and prioritizing measurement and
> >> > test tasks submitted by researchers and collaborators within or beyond
> >> > the team, similar to what Planetlab contributed to the distributed
> >> > systems research in early 2000s. The testbed code and measurement data
> >> > will be open sourced and released to the research community, enabling
> >> > trace-driven simulation and statistical analysis worldwide, liberating
> >> > Internet access in general and specifically LSN research traditionally
> >> > limited to population centers and financially viable institutions.
> >> > With Canadian users at priority, the testbed will also federate with
> >> > other similar ones in the US and around the world, e.g., LEOScope led
> >> > by the University of Surrey, to have a true global coverage while
> >> > allowing international users to explore Canadian geographic and
> >> > demographic features, including those in arctic regions. The testbed
> >> > strives for self-sustainability after initial investment by providing
> >> > a leveled test range for LSN service providers to compete, a training
> >> > ground for highly qualified personnel for Canadian industry, and a
> >> > playground to attract K-12 and particularly indigenous kids to have a
> >> > technical career."
> >> > --
> >> > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA,
> Web.UVic.CA/~pan
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Starlink mailing list
> >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>

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