From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yb1-f176.google.com (mail-yb1-f176.google.com [209.85.219.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 093513B2A4 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:32:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-yb1-f176.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-dafe04717baso4035342276.1 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:32:09 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1701109929; x=1701714729; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=6thRivnlXqY+COtSTs1s9lVXsBceLvhZALlhMAzH39k=; b=XU27xPOM78zv1saXXHI0u2yQ2xnO9Ll+cwsneac3FoGIq+4o2LCxM8z9gCz8ZKDmM4 uZ7MaC5YOJ6ioeLhsRvRcHnGlqIIC32QCYfAx7WArWxB538xhrDBfdHkIN26RKdfwmR0 +UaEii5fo38GJACe8QqhcpPtZkNgQHclTs8egnwR0dGhC0+ZLhzU4/odjj4RT8NIyBqv v4Ej6whlHKT1X45Rni1+MWsADf+EHOEvq9ZiYowwFovViEzQZfRKn5Y5yQUvng7SrZn5 tLpruMc80GZ7ZnSuhE/5cXkJQeaUf6OWwBZa2mfcvTDDiUV7PZbuqQNA2Hf4yU0LZYV3 NgnQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyDSmtMV0cZKgUwa6buVsswuxeSZ/GKUY5+gJvYuLNXhogdv9ll nwtUSx5L4hQaQRGnlSZZbs3I3QnjA+YEUyIQcsc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF6Ien53WoWsG/U3WPoFcZABb+VFrxlT7EaK5tfREMWqM/wKY6iJcuKYfhA00TCM9epc257PTKcvqfJcqG5bCk= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:f281:0:b0:5d1:1bab:5902 with SMTP id b123-20020a0df281000000b005d11bab5902mr1730321ywf.15.1701109929382; Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:32:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: J Pan Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:31:57 -0800 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] fcc NOI response due Dec 1 X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:32:10 -0000 to be fair, starlink has made great improvement in the last few months as shown in https://www.reddit.com/user/panuvic/ but a bit more openness will help starlink improve further as well -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pa= n On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 7:53=E2=80=AFAM Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: > > We started work on a response to the FCC NOI requesting feedback as to > future broadband bandwidth requirements for the USA early this > morning. > > I am unfamiliar with the processes by which Starlink was disqualified > from the RDOF?, and a little out of date as to current performance. It > is very clear they are aiming for 100/20 speedtest performance and > frequently achieving it. > > A drafty draft is here, and some of the language is being toned down > by popular request. (the pre-readers were lucky! I cut the cuss-words > out) There is only one joke in the whole thing. I'm slipping!. > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLM= BY4vH4/edit?usp=3Dsharing > > I have some starlink info contained in appendix B so far, but I would > prefer not to cite my own long term plot as I did, and also cite > others that have a good latency measurement, I like the 15s irtt plots > I have seen gone by. If you have research about starlink you would > like me to cite in this context, please comment on the link above! > > The NOI is the first link, and it helpe me, actually, to start with > the FCC commissioners' comments at the end, rather than read through > the whole thing. Not that I would not welcome more folk submitting > themselves to that... > > > -- > :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink