From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=fail (Used From Domain Record) header.from=uvic.ca policy.dmarc=none Received: from mail-yw1-f177.google.com (mail-yw1-f177.google.com [209.85.128.177]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FF4B663351 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2025 17:53:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-yw1-f177.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-72ce9790aceso12844337b3.3 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2025 08:53:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1757519607; x=1758124407; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Lixq2S9CL2X0zfNQ722rFkiBvvRK5i+mKKfZC2yKv9c=; b=S8LWmk+CMNfhYDc6KK9OjNB+cyFfgtSoDhTtdh7ernHkdhYulXsCHyl5jmE4R4Q4lf kmiKyT8FHSrxmhDpROojWElbZsCWvzZbVOhQCpX0fKq5Nkc7b9AaZf6wO0cVzqeLbq8h KDp8NH2faRMuIqAJm0v1DBujYMTMNdF4qrB5CItlCGjD0aU83bMGaURK9gGD5TFF6coa D5oIQdv94YBsaL7WwB9OmnKbr7U+qoOgxu6IRX+8bXqTjPxBBHlYORKiB9tD6xokcsJc +bQ4NiYpXsV01TQNirblPTfwZfHzPgiEF8/+TeSdHqmxguOP3eQJdgRaFIYRccRysrru KDnQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzpbOG8k5uGmJ9OcSGFmahIEHWdNj2M23G3wv94/qVohpUPUB5W TQMnfv5/2wA5sXPcCzHtkBvS6VMJbHLKZCAHkDIJgO0CUpJMb2Bf05SD9xHzPmVSaEylNsIp6JY 3QLnSNMTp54tUrKy4jEuDoCUlBTykBst/WA== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncsmBnf7hL8im1w+wmnZfM4cQzzG7KeoHt8pla7BTRsMmlPwgj+pmgFFywAjShh xLRcrPFiiU/4s5+0dT0c6O88LFbdio5bBOZDz1UJR/wHwBYiCsoW8+DsnkiGndryEuBhFSCU4AR whLRNZhEy1IBkxB6A6J0hLHw7YFloatjmrwHB4Obvnjub+tc3Lhl0vYZaJszDySB1Nwy+NeDKOo 72++MECYSaqwqTeJ4VyFnRUDDHq X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEnm1IQRIzoSvHMfFIJ6+dfYuE3BAzN8+qTHR204G6ET+RoE3svWX1BcD42wDk6+MLTjRxVGy3SRRN0xMh16s8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:46c1:b0:723:be82:c78a with SMTP id 00721157ae682-727f652c4b5mr128943507b3.31.1757519606514; Wed, 10 Sep 2025 08:53:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: J Pan Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 08:53:15 -0700 X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXwMKDkacx18AGp_-rCJrd06TBDElZD5j3aKKIwzcGg6MZouzQbdZol8vzo Message-ID: To: Sauli Kiviranta Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: UTPLBHHBYRQSOQ4YF2EHO2JEGMCHQ6N2 X-Message-ID-Hash: UTPLBHHBYRQSOQ4YF2EHO2JEGMCHQ6N2 X-MailFrom: panatuvicdotca@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Testing 4K live video over Starlink with added +10% packet loss List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: great. i have a student working on related topics and i will get her in touch with you too -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pa= n On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 1:12=E2=80=AFAM Sauli Kiviranta wrote: > > Here is example on just TCP over TCP acceleration: > > https://x.com/sksauli/status/1959909737492795423/ > > Any other test that would be interesting? > > Best regards, > Sauli > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 12:13=E2=80=AFAM J Pan wrote: >> >> that's really cool. most tcp cannot handle 10% packet loss. what's >> video datarate/latency? >> -- >> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/= ~pan >> >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 2:05=E2=80=AFPM Sauli Kiviranta wrote: >> > >> > This is all just TCP, that was kind of thew idea. Not yet with FEC tho= ugh, working on that, just rusty good old TCP. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Sauli >> > >> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 12:02=E2=80=AFAM J Pan wrote: >> >> >> >> fast.com measures tcp performance and you used udp to get the best ou= t >> >> of a lossy link? spacex uses multiple starlink dishes on a launch >> >> vehicle and pick whatever made through too >> >> -- >> >> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.= CA/~pan >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 1:50=E2=80=AFPM Sauli Kiviranta via Starlink >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > We start to get somewhere that is what I would say cool level. Our = target >> >> > is Ulrich Spiedel storm conditions measured over the Gabriella cycl= one with >> >> > Starlink. >> >> > >> >> > https://x.com/sksauli/status/1964349734304301268 >> >> > >> >> > We have also now test running just accelerating all data, so we can= get >> >> > same effects for better utilization rate of the link. >> >> > >> >> > Anyone know what kind of bit error rates or packet loss levels are = in the >> >> > streams for SpaceX launches? Usually they look very very stable. >> >> > >> >> > Anyone want to test this? Send me email sauli.kiviranta@xrtc.io >> >> > >> >> > Best regards, >> >> > Sauli >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Starlink mailing list -- starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> >> > To unsubscribe send an email to starlink-leave@lists.bufferbloat.ne= t