From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=fail (Used From Domain Record) header.from=uvic.ca policy.dmarc=none Received: from mail-yx1-f49.google.com (mail-yx1-f49.google.com [74.125.224.49]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F26F98B92A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2025 05:33:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-yx1-f49.google.com with SMTP id 956f58d0204a3-63e16fbdd50so411772d50.2 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2025 20:33:33 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1763613212; x=1764218012; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-gg:x-gm-message-state:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=t7GWqkchbulStZXTnuto956Khg1geULNyCFzSsYrNc4=; b=IfDttLm7bqjjl0BO6dYZkvOlSqc8f659RdDoFTEYofsNW6XOqqDluvhTNW5g+NIqeI 8zNsBrqNn/QX8noUY5CSG5ZiU8Trmz2lqnzbiGjHOYy0mO79a2oSVkbvioJIBPIFGG4I Boylm9v2yPXkrUcHDptHjrPDTpe2wAp6/BErNJyWwMvDNv+xSRVq1TUsibdcOrmXv7IN 2IlYWDc4TTtN5C850aqyasxzdOxiU/YADuFBv7xTyP7e7Ru+FEiOoZPqwyk2b0hta+Ij pEKAcogz1b7OnutYR19h4+vV+NQUgtbi+1c2wDiBV1lkDguCEJPy+T9qVz4Jm6j+wO0E LVng== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVlbREWgHtTqETHyron1gpeQNZer960TGzGRW4hSI5rXPgGXHfHSxHawKGThw9Tmb6GC4XbFiDgcQ==@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yyl7SCcvDxHOwpRmLPgT2flM0RRui1jwVCjSFwWk2Z0Du72Fqyr tIzgu089IFpEYnZfIBDkcEYTgrRgN3yzkrvdegivVATNlXKe6TL+qs1L7gbX0vl019N45DHBjuR 22NBfRTAzQvwB13SBt3kJnE/WDs+WMcw= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnctpq+26Rzs8Nz/ssA5QegN/Uog/561qK+Lkjz7yuFgd7hnNARVYuHDKs88w11H JDg2qxpgIT8s6vI/CFIjKuc5FrMrto8eKILGJlTxaK7RV+/FYAw7cn8QP1QGc5nboTPMQW9ZhCR T5DvLXUY2c7KmVSeTD8wjolg1tjiEAG7L12EckdNJ3y6xjisiLbWmJZYeYMz4tJHyVtuQP0QW/i 8UydTTiHZHWHeJ/bCgVDjCE6zMNwW1qGeSgjyVdo9Gixxb5GQVW/bkaGp9Yua1uZe0mtNs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGQCEZziRyCfJToHEHv8uHXfqc2DHw5yBMeHS304rxXFJNYNWIZ+bYHcaJE7yGetLFfPdO+1UTcyWBKW2x+ftE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:690e:428a:20b0:641:f5bc:6964 with SMTP id 956f58d0204a3-642f7df1d7bmr1017287d50.80.1763613212225; Wed, 19 Nov 2025 20:33:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <830.1763590830@obiwan.sandelman.ca> In-Reply-To: <830.1763590830@obiwan.sandelman.ca> From: J Pan Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2025 20:33:21 -0800 X-Gm-Features: AWmQ_blQCQjBqBxt9wwoy004VOq6EZSZW_1jMrA7b9BTv3Yt0cuGmc7Nu_KKFRI Message-ID: To: Michael Richardson Cc: 5grm-satellite@ieee.org, Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: MWGJUCGNUYI2M5G6WYLLAG46WINTVTYN X-Message-ID-Hash: MWGJUCGNUYI2M5G6WYLLAG46WINTVTYN X-MailFrom: panatuvicdotca@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: How Starcloud Is Bringing Data Centers to Outer Space | NVIDIA Blog List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: yes, we learned it in a hard way too https://www.uvic.ca/ecs/news/cfar-spaceleo.php -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pa= n On Wed, Nov 19, 2025 at 2:20=E2=80=AFPM Michael Richardson wrote: > > > J Pan via Starlink wrote: > > not physical space, but energy harvesting and heat dissipating migh= t > > Heat dissipation is very difficult in space. > >