From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=fail (Used From Domain Record) header.from=uvic.ca policy.dmarc=none Received: from mail-yw1-f171.google.com (mail-yw1-f171.google.com [209.85.128.171]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D0DC65D4B7 for ; Tue, 09 Sep 2025 23:21:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-yw1-f171.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-723bc91d7bbso59892887b3.3 for ; Tue, 09 Sep 2025 14:21:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1757452864; x=1758057664; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=/F8qKcxjxCTlxUKPkpSI26QlFCe7sxgCdmM/o2Gqa68=; b=AOBwrnIKCDiiz/zdQjomFw5R3oPZN/tP1gKpy07xNykpUUvf//MyL3xMQmMRnymV2D DcpTPhAqIcFonfn3ZsHHFrW9bQ9Ruw4jWH5r514ztHJd7ly1BtT7BOEc8da83+vlZFBO csQhbDItAD8W2yOURS8uR2+qRcq42kVjKkYufgj3pLpCyAZ2C2hVN8vC6+60FNjO/Pum w9U/wVdp7VVTXLxWb4u5GO2+sIZ3QrJEoxENUS9B5zTDYRxb8EuNQpxmq6Azq7M51Pqv f/1C866pCdT3NF4AiKZNOEUi5+8Jptl/ITPi+CADL3DLY9qIDRDi8oTUul8cFLGi77TD JgaA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxeYxmweFrV0ui1SYk1HCiUDfOAecnycIIzeOkdDUtCBRXJ0EXt 5ajsj4xzwCAKLVaupPkThlhYDEvqVNt3MweSKnB+/EaCoiroi0fjE+8NyMSKeaWZBSzIT4G3YWf Io5fvLSWp5+1NXpw2Bve5BYp18hlmQkc= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnctm+jMVQInd02sR9/VryT5cJEKzXA9dcrC74WOUy2sJ15ju8jKp7FzZweOe5JX E+388vCHVoUdv6rZBqK/7fMsbK8gmtk8Mme+zRtAIqB3ldRIv4sO2n1SoG0z4Ik3D6fy/vZjJxt Qwdw9de5TJgW7j2ZYaG04CIupGXGWFb0Ntd6ZBz91KvkZ0E3C7GFhHtkTKJWpzhnZ5jcVD92Zeu 5NeJzU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGPFjCWN6vXRsSJ++Y3wxzwXHZoTbmDysrDyEhradhb9weV5y7/iEtntQ+54ZGlkThLzD7n+V9sWcjPjTt1rmw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:6910:b0:726:5cfc:be39 with SMTP id 00721157ae682-727f4d634a9mr145250327b3.27.1757452863766; Tue, 09 Sep 2025 14:21:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <175739769285.1561.9299932820839760282@gauss> <048be086-22b8-4c20-9be8-e4f86e620031@olegkutkov.me> In-Reply-To: <048be086-22b8-4c20-9be8-e4f86e620031@olegkutkov.me> From: J Pan Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:20:52 -0700 X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXxtQ9j1VJ9kZh1-bn58YT9sSgiZvk7YOhRKZ4NKMwi3gzycw5-tK6E9jV0 Message-ID: To: Oleg Kutkov Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: 772YLMFVVWPSQ6WB34BWRXDKCFR5OJ44 X-Message-ID-Hash: 772YLMFVVWPSQ6WB34BWRXDKCFR5OJ44 X-MailFrom: panatuvicdotca@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Starlink Standby Mode List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: nothing better than free ;-) but it may cost them more than $5/mo to maintain an active dish. don't they just want to keep as many revenue-generating customers for an upcoming ipo? -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pa= n On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 2:01=E2=80=AFPM Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote: > > Well. I prefer a good old free pause. > I have seven Starlink terminals on my account, and I mostly don't use > them, except for some experiments, occasional tests, firmware dumps, and > similar purposes. > Now they will charge me $35 each month for basically nothing. > > On 9/9/25 23:14, Luis A. Cornejo via Starlink wrote: > > There is another electric cooperative in my county that did just that. > > Strung fiber along the posts, I was not lucky enough to be part of thei= r > > territory. But from people that I know it=E2=80=99s similar that=E2=80= =99s it=E2=80=99s fast but > > not always reliable, so storms can take some down, often around here it= =E2=80=99s > > also a backhoe, and when it does down, it=E2=80=99s down for a while. > > > > But I agree, it=E2=80=99s a great backup. Although it probably costs al= most as much > > to run in electricity as the service itself! =3Do) > > > > -Luis > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 1:41=E2=80=AFPM Colin_Higbie via Starlink < > > starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > > >> I find the Standby mode to be a great backup option. $5/mo for unlimit= ed > >> low-bandwidth usage. This is something I've been urging them to offer = for > >> about a year now. > >> > >> About 18 months after I originally purchased and subscribed to Starlin= k, > >> our power company (not phone company as you'd expect, really our elect= ric > >> power company) rolled out fiber to rural communities in northern NH. A= s > >> great as Starlink was compared to what we had before, fiber is even be= tter > >> now that it's available (1Gbps for $79/mo, consistently tests as A on > >> Bufferbloat). But it's not 100% reliable. For example, when there are > >> widespread power outages, it goes down. The Starlink standby option is > >> perfect for those situations. > >> > >> Latency remains decent, just limited bandwidth. And if the fiber outag= e > >> remains in effect for too long, we could always activate Starlink at f= ull > >> bandwidth for that month, where it appears they're taking that option = away > >> from people with inactive accounts not already on Standby mode (they m= ay be > >> bluffing on that =E2=80=93 you'd think they would want to make it easy= for anyone > >> to give them money and resubscribe, standby customer or not). > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Colin > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Starlink mailing list -- starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> To unsubscribe send an email to starlink-leave@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list -- starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > To unsubscribe send an email to starlink-leave@lists.bufferbloat.net > > -- > Best regards, > Oleg Kutkov > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list -- starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > To unsubscribe send an email to starlink-leave@lists.bufferbloat.net