From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yb1-f176.google.com (mail-yb1-f176.google.com [209.85.219.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE36C3B29D for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2025 02:13:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f176.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e455bf1f4d3so5199315276.2 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2025 23:13:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1743574391; x=1744179191; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Gpi+f7fZJUlnGxsuvHCHYchYfLS+KVZsor3vOCymQ5A=; b=q48bomhuAJ6wKSp6n35iymAWLUtycMUyQqhjDSHVxnAzG9TEYBnaBYBakAmBYSegjO WN5qYyosBzx4cW6VcjfAmpxWV/gAwiOXCCH+fWPEfCWONwp4MVwVDzMqpgx+on+MyR+8 l4mBC9wT4+XcMCo4+H5HqnejWFcAtpBw9fBvG0MyI/HK2fKR0wc/O1/LrbgwFhaPAdgi o/LH4DlF30JNTdxxw77dZGV19CIQc98SJ6g84mD0O4C+N8pYbzRpstNw+hiy+IMffFsD 821qNEDMb6a2R1KITxJ4D0VjIg19cVhH3A8IZI3T1J38sbV3jHl4V2G8WQJdu+tUZkL/ qQkg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyWMDb/xlS1AnYhu46S5F/APjfLGmVaAsOvPEcYn7XfJV5a0OUE UQScBhMH8Ra6GqxU0903bSMGvHxZrXg1AGYR4MNSCK2+iPVH1sEVxUY/dF8iVhlKw1W+riMe9wO GKn3avvWw7afwh/V79uiuQo/18pZG7FUvWc0= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnct381c5E6f9rx90zKKDwplQsZ8ND22Wibu6IMqsCEenI5rMPb2/xaJy7Q4vvi5 RCdg1lVJaCnP+oFj1CxSBLW5JkKgYyLJHraNh/IkuHfl3sTxj6cGjeyNskWNQFyQ64fC8MgD8IC zmCyf7mjUggYJe57rnBpc3+P+uAbmxzLqcgzFo X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFk+VcPb9r70EMq/C2tRzf48B3DX5KJ69YG6+JftFrLGnz3oUK7WxJGJ6Hhtg0FGhQXxYxpF7JTP77V/AwYjUo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:2489:b0:e6d:eb74:272 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e6deb740723mr5744592276.22.1743574390835; Tue, 01 Apr 2025 23:13:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: J Pan Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 23:12:59 -0700 X-Gm-Features: AQ5f1JosUrUuMMsszxlm04ksUbjI6b92WOsZETWqCXeUL1h9XFjLJdAB6HMdlYY Message-ID: To: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] leo-sat-net testbed X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 06:13:11 -0000 our testbed is approved today and will be named after dave in his honor (a global computer network needs a global people network of collaborators) if his family ok's. can anyone help? -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pa= n On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:23=E2=80=AFPM J Pan wrote: > > Hello All: we are putting together a proposal for a leo-sat-net > testbed in canada (node locations due to funding constraints) but open > to the research community worldwide. are you interested in using such > a platform? your experience, feedback and comments are welcome too. > cheers. -j > > "2nd-generation low-earth-orbit (LEO) satellite networks (LSNs), > exemplified by SpaceX=E2=80=99s Starlink, Eutelsat=E2=80=99s OneWeb, Amaz= on=E2=80=99s Project > Kuiper and Telesat (Canada)=E2=80=99s Lightspeed, promise to revolutioniz= e the > Internet access around the world on all Earth surface and above. Thus > the research community has an urgent need to understand them > specifically and further improve LSNs in general. However, many > researchers are limited by the access to such systems due to > availability, location, financial and expertise constraints. With a > team of researchers across Canada specialized in computer networks, > distributed systems, satellite communications, security and privacy, > and cloud computing, this proposal builds a coast-to-coast-to-coast > LSN testbed for Canada, leveraging the team=E2=80=99s experience particul= arly > in building individual LSN test nodes and federating through remote > access, bootstrapping the team=E2=80=99s research in LSN performance, > reliability and security, and fostering collaboration in the research > community and with industry across Canada and beyond. Specifically, > the testbed will deploy at least one LSN testbed node in each province > and territory of Canada, ideally in north, remote and indigenous > regions, given the geo-diversity needed for LSN research. The testbed > nodes also provide Internet access to the hosts and their local > communities if needed, given the separate virtual local area networks > and end-to-end encryption without compromising user privacy, for at > least one year supported by the proposal with following years > supported by local initiatives through the economic development > enabled by the Internet access and external sponsorship. The testbed > will be remotely and centrally managed through the regional and > national centers hosted by the team, maximizing the uptime and utility > of all testbed nodes, and scheduling and prioritizing measurement and > test tasks submitted by researchers and collaborators within or beyond > the team, similar to what Planetlab contributed to the distributed > systems research in early 2000s. The testbed code and measurement data > will be open sourced and released to the research community, enabling > trace-driven simulation and statistical analysis worldwide, liberating > Internet access in general and specifically LSN research traditionally > limited to population centers and financially viable institutions. > With Canadian users at priority, the testbed will also federate with > other similar ones in the US and around the world, e.g., LEOScope led > by the University of Surrey, to have a true global coverage while > allowing international users to explore Canadian geographic and > demographic features, including those in arctic regions. The testbed > strives for self-sustainability after initial investment by providing > a leveled test range for LSN service providers to compete, a training > ground for highly qualified personnel for Canadian industry, and a > playground to attract K-12 and particularly indigenous kids to have a > technical career." > -- > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~= pan