From: J Pan <Pan@uvic.ca>
To: Steven Honson <bufferbloat-lists@steven.honson.au>
Cc: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>,
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 18:29:15 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHn=e4jhWhNDqisKFMchL1UKZkTuSsEOAA7jZ9Fo32Qq9+=ddg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21b2df7e-23c6-4c84-980f-635f41483c29@app.fastmail.com>
yes. https://starlink-enterprise-guide.readme.io/docs/ip-addresses
"Starlink is IPv6 native network. Using IPv6 is more flexible and
future-proof." starlink has greatly improved tech docs
--
J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pan
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:10 PM Steven Honson via Starlink
<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> As an experienced network engineer with extensive experience with IPv6, I'm confident this is native IPv6.
>
> Cheers,
> Steven
>
> On Tue, 12 Dec 2023, at 2:30 AM, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
> > Steven,
> >
> > Thanks for the clarifications. It is indeed very advantageous to use
> > DHCPv6-PD from a Client in home to starlink Server, and obtain a /56.
> >
> > But to be native IPv6, it would need the IPv6 packets to travel natively
> > (sit directly on the link layer) between home and starlink network. If
> > these IPv6 packets are encapsulate in IPv4, then there would be a risk
> > of additional latency compared to v4.
> >
> > A possible way to find out whether it's IPv6 native (and hence no
> > additional latency) is to browse speedtest.net from an IPv4-only client
> > vs from an IPv6-only client. An IPv6-only Windows client can be made by
> > unchecking the IPv4 box in interface Properties window.
> >
> > Ideally, if it is IPv6 native, the latency reported by speedtest.net is
> > approximatively the same on IPv4 vs on IPv6 (sometimes the IPv6 latency
> > is even lower than on IPv4). If the latency reported on IPv6 is higher
> > than on IPv4 it could be for many reasons, and one of them could be that
> > IPv6 is not native, but encapsulated in IPv4. The IPv4 encapsulating
> > endpoint could be on Dishy.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > Le 08/12/2023 à 13:24, Steven a écrit :
> >> Alexandre,
> >>
> >>> Are you sure the DHCPv6-PD server is in Starlink network and not on the
> >>> MikroTik router?
> >> That would be quite the unusual setup, and even so would require that I obtain said /56 from elsewhere (such as via a tunnel) to then delegate back to myself...
> >>
> >>> It could be that the MikroTik router runs tunnelbroker, obtains a /56
> >>> from HE, splits that /56 into multiple /64s and puts it on the DHCPv6-PD
> >>> local server config files.
> >> I am confident this is not the case since I configured these routers from scratch.
> >>
> >>> It could also be that the DHCPv6-PD server is run on the Dishy.
> >> It is unlikely that it is on the Dishy, as the latency to the DHCPv6 servers IP address, as well as the first IP hop, indicates the usual Ground->Space->Ground latency I'd expect.
> >>
> >>> It could also be that the DHCPv6-PD server is run on the starlink ground
> >>> network: maybe on the teleport, maybe deeper on the starlink network.
> >> Yes, this is the most likely place they are running this, likely the PoP you are being routed through.
> >>
> >>> Do you know the IPv6 address of your DHCPv6-PD Server?
> >> The DHCPv6 server address is a Starlink IPv6 address, the same one as my default gateway (`2406:2d40:xxx:xxx::1`). The /56 I am being allocated is also from the same /32 as this DHCPv6 server, with the /32 being 2406:2d40::/32, which you'll note is allocated to Starlink.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Steven
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-12 2:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-04 0:15 Noel Butler
2023-12-04 0:44 ` J Pan
2023-12-04 12:04 ` Noel Butler
2023-12-04 18:17 ` J Pan
2023-12-07 11:54 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-07 18:07 ` J Pan
2023-12-07 20:10 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-07 20:40 ` David Lang
2023-12-08 5:57 ` Freddie Cash
2023-12-08 8:30 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 8:37 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 15:27 ` Freddie Cash
2023-12-08 17:26 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 8:40 ` Steven
2023-12-08 10:22 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 10:31 ` Steven
2023-12-08 11:48 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 11:54 ` Steven
2023-12-08 12:07 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 12:24 ` Steven
2023-12-08 12:46 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 14:15 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-11 15:30 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-12 1:09 ` Steven Honson
2023-12-12 2:29 ` J Pan [this message]
2023-12-12 2:43 ` Steven
2023-12-12 10:22 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-12 10:33 ` Steven
2023-12-12 10:50 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-12-13 10:33 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-13 14:37 ` Marc Blanchet
2023-12-13 18:27 ` David Lang
2023-12-14 13:27 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-23 21:35 ` J Pan
2024-01-06 15:01 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-01-08 10:01 ` [Starlink] starlink topology with tunnels (was: Info on IP country ranges) Alexandre Petrescu
2024-01-08 10:06 ` [Starlink] starlink topology with tunnels Alexandre PETRESCU
2023-12-12 10:52 ` [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 10:28 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 10:31 ` Gert Doering
2023-12-13 20:58 David Fernández
2023-12-13 22:57 ` Marc Blanchet
2023-12-13 22:59 ` Marc Blanchet
2023-12-24 1:29 ` Lukasz Bromirski
2024-01-06 14:59 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-01-06 15:06 ` Dave Taht
2024-01-08 10:54 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-01-08 13:16 ` Alexandre Petrescu
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