From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qv1-xf2b.google.com (mail-qv1-xf2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9E153B29D for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 18:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qv1-xf2b.google.com with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-6806914dba7so41433476d6.2 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 15:40:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hackaday-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1706139634; x=1706744434; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=3DuY6dxaDx5mThuTANeWmf2pR0g4JslERlual5GyQMU=; b=AMkj21TqtXk7kIcPvpk1GeKqluKTu45CUFO4RzF/4wP7gYAH2FZRTaz6uioWt9vBi1 Ljta5ACx3jNVXvnoW2p7PhYvkH30NqnSygHP7DRBm20h8FgNDCf9Z1WJOz1cByrZ+30b Vvg0sPSm/CprDYp6GvuJ4kHHpAeWqqaSN74imBvPK3Bi353NQ67/3B3QnNd2pPYHkNfT 92hdHQqNBFzhtlsZYnI3R0Slb9JQug+yQDXww14QbDbHn5hQWssRHuXnGI7M9k/a5MKB CkO/i/Z7AZq0d5GNKvRnmK/l2g+hOTtyjdONxIJg2m6s1P4l/4M6cUhupa2zQC+vemIc VlfA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1706139634; x=1706744434; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=3DuY6dxaDx5mThuTANeWmf2pR0g4JslERlual5GyQMU=; b=paR6wWeWx/0u2goQngIVypJvnzm2bMEd12AG4vEnTHzs3inpHeMl0iTpTRX/8vspxP FAHm4ru9/JjQY5D49Qrm1nNKg2w2P5URqp7WJhoCpTGWIkdthgwBcDOoNQ9qkpWxFCtC TBKiThL9fD1zJYd3Oulzk8CzfZ/Z8cK6xYhEbUUxeh/XlTk/WsnWzzCzMf2FQiN7OSr1 HdXeJrFX/q97j+6wWmQPD2TaFTIPutui7s/PRXctjkB0ZjACJDM+eQfc/98GKqXNB1HZ KE99/RCgOCJQh/Q8J36KAAIUGCFFfx6WqZZx7S8ZGKlWZG9/eq0KmhpR1zivW+wkBwUF NGiA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw6YOc6NJUjT6RbqWCEZz5Xrz1IKeYmDkDQv/WS/eHUcWIfZ/jm 3nyGJTAJdPQC46Yfk6l1AXNG6WFTyFxoe+HyRhtGkyACRgLZVTtyrsYeSjb7TrQ/o2k502KLxvI LowHj9j2Yez3/TPkhVDn/QsU0Pzdp9/PXVqe5Nt2Zi9O7xeP2Kw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHAzzlt0aoo86TuBUrd48xcHAVkfoowG1uR7UibZcRVi07WLxQZsFGUWdMdxHuCUXeaPFSLFVummiNvDnpYuTw= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:5cc4:0:b0:686:9f99:b08d with SMTP id iu4-20020ad45cc4000000b006869f99b08dmr90701qvb.40.1706139634242; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 15:40:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <10cabe9d-0c0f-4adc-baf7-0ba487867352@olegkutkov.me> <7849c840-fe56-4867-91bd-613c3d2b5f42@gmail.com> <4efa1525-98e7-4aae-aad0-2a0a8c29ce38@olegkutkov.me> In-Reply-To: <4efa1525-98e7-4aae-aad0-2a0a8c29ce38@olegkutkov.me> From: Jonathan Bennett Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:40:23 -0600 Message-ID: To: Oleg Kutkov Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d62eda060fb996d2" Subject: Re: [Starlink] First tests of the Starlink REV4 (aka gen3) X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 23:40:35 -0000 --000000000000d62eda060fb996d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm mainly curious if the move back to RJ45 means they are now using a real POE standard, instead of the custom solution the previous generations have used. Jonathan Bennett Hackaday.com On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 4:47=E2=80=AFPM Oleg Kutkov via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > I will try to do better tests this weekend, measuring all the necessary > parameters. Plus IPv6 > > On 1/24/24 14:37, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: > > Thanks for the tests! > > > > The dl/ul speeds 300/15 mbit/s are impressive. > > > > At video pointer 5:53 the reported Ping ?/dl/ul 88/204/121 ms and > > Jitter 9.2 ms seem interesting. > > > > =3D=3D> I am not sure which of the two (ping or jitter) you name > > 'latency'? > > > > =3D=3D> I am not sure why the dl (download) ping ms is higher than = the > > ul. > > > > =3D=3D> I don't know what is the first ('?') parameter reported as > > 88ms for Ping? > > > > I wonder whether the DHCPv6-PD is still supported by REV4 and whether > > the allocated prefix is still a non-/64 (i.e. a /56 delivered by > > DHCPv6-PD reported earlier on this email list by Steven on Dec. 12, > > 2023)? > > > > Alex > > > > Le 23/01/2024 =C3=A0 10:07, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink a =C3=A9crit : > >> I conducted the initial comparative tests of the new terminal in > >> Ukraine. I guess it's not a really "legal" because the new terminal > >> is not certified and not selling outside the US for the moment. But > >> who cares. > >> > >> Here's a video: https://youtu.be/hWPMpJrjd1g > >> > >> I will try to do more technical tests next week. There will be a new > >> video. > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > -- > Best regards, > Oleg Kutkov > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --000000000000d62eda060fb996d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm mainly curious if the move back to RJ45 means they= are now using a real POE standard, instead of the custom solution the prev= ious generations have used.

<= div>
Jonathan Bennett
Hackaday.com

On Wed, = Jan 24, 2024 at 4:47=E2=80=AFPM Oleg Kutkov via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> = wrote:
I will tr= y to do better tests this weekend, measuring all the necessary
parameters. Plus IPv6

On 1/24/24 14:37, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote:
> Thanks for the tests!
>
> The dl/ul speeds 300/15 mbit/s are impressive.
>
> At video pointer 5:53 the reported Ping ?/dl/ul 88/204/121 ms and
> Jitter 9.2 ms seem interesting.
>
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D=3D> I am not sure which of the two (ping or = jitter) you name
> 'latency'?
>
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D=3D> I am not sure why the dl (download) ping= ms is higher than the
> ul.
>
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D=3D> I don't know what is the first ('= ;?') parameter reported as
> 88ms for Ping?
>
> I wonder whether the DHCPv6-PD is still supported by REV4 and whether =
> the allocated prefix is still a non-/64 (i.e. a /56 delivered by
> DHCPv6-PD reported earlier on this email list by Steven on Dec. 12, > 2023)?
>
> Alex
>
> Le 23/01/2024 =C3=A0 10:07, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink a =C3=A9crit=C2= =A0:
>> I conducted the initial comparative tests of the new terminal in <= br> >> Ukraine. I guess it's not a really "legal" because t= he new terminal
>> is not certified and not selling outside the US for the moment. Bu= t
>> who cares.
>>
>> Here's a video: https://youtu.be/hWPMpJrjd1g
>>
>> I will try to do more technical tests next week. There will be a n= ew
>> video.
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Starlink mailing list
> St= arlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink<= /a>

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