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Reed" , "Livingood, Jason" , "cerowrt-commits@lists.bufferbloat.net" , Frantisek Borsik , "bloat-ietf@lists.bufferbloat.net" , Herbert Wolverson , Make-Wifi-fast , "cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net" , libreqos , Jeremy Austin via Rpm , "Frantisek (Frank) Borsik" , =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspect?= =?UTF-8?Q?s_heard_this_time=21?= , "codel-wireless@lists.bufferbloat.net" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , bloat , Cake List , "codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , Dave Taht via Starlink , =?UTF-8?Q?Robert_Chac=C3=B3n?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a8ce45063292e4fe" Subject: Re: [Starlink] =?utf-8?b?W01ha2Utd2lmaS1mYXN0XSBbQ2FrZV0gW0Jsb2F0XSBJ?= =?utf-8?q?n_loving_memory_of_Dave_T=C3=A4ht_=3C3?= X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 11:12:25 -0000 --000000000000a8ce45063292e4fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable He would be a good candidate for the Postel Award, don't you think? v On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 5:45=E2=80=AFAM Loganaden Velvindron wrote: > > > > 2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his > contributions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some > other moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid > Katie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When > Wizards Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet > pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.) > Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History > Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know > of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or > Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the way = we > think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the offici= al > histories. > > He did not fit in a typical corporate culture especially in his later > years. He got a certain amount of respect at the > IETF. > --=20 Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to: Vint Cerf Google, LLC 1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor Reston, VA 20190 +1 (571) 213 1346 until further notice --000000000000a8ce45063292e4fe Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
He would be a good candidate for the Postel Award, don'= ;t you think?
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On Sat, Apr 1= 2, 2025 at 5:45=E2=80=AFAM Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com> wrote:
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> 2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his contr= ibutions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some ot= her moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid Kat= ie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When Wiza= rds Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet = pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.)=C2= =A0 Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer Hist= ory Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I= know of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen= or Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the wa= y we think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the= official histories.

He did not fit in a typical corporate culture especially in his later
years. He got a certain amount of respect at the
IETF.


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