From: Vint Cerf <vint@google.com>
To: "David Fernández" <davidfdzp@gmail.com>
Cc: starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 10:57:15 -0400 [thread overview]
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I hope you all realize that quantum entanglement does NOT facilitate FTL
communication.
v
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 10:46 AM David Fernández via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> "quantum entanglement may be a path to beat the speed of light"
>
> It seems that is not going anywhere. Maybe better warp drives.
>
> Faster than light comms as a target for 7G mentioned here:
>
> https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/653fee7b042dc92df0919930/MnM-Trends-Wheel/960x0.jpg?format=jpg&width=1440
>
>
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarwantsingh/2023/10/30/the-mega-trends-that-will-shape-our-future-world
>
> So, maybe that means that 6G will be the last G, after all, as faster than
> light comms seem to be impossible, because paradoxes could be created.
>
> The end of comms engineering could be in the horizon of our lifetime.
>
>
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 07:16:16 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
> To: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
> Cc: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>, starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> Subject: Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem
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> Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
>
> > Le 05/06/2024 à 15:40, Gert Doering a écrit :
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 03:28:45PM +0200, Alexandre Petrescu via
> Starlink
> > wrote:
> >>> well, ok. One day the satcom latency will be so low that we will not
> have
> >>> enough requirements for its use :-)
> >> Your disbelief in physics keeps amazing me :-)
> >
> > sorry :-) Rather than simply 'satcom' I should have said
> > satcom-haps-planes-drones. I dont have a name for that.
>
> you would be better off with plans that don't require beating the speed of
> light. Yes, quantum entanglement may be a path to beat the speed of light,
> but
> you still need the electronics to handle it, and have the speed of sound
> at
> temperatures and pressures that humans can live at as a restriction.
>
> by comparison to your 1ms latency goals, extensive AT&T phone testing
> decades
> ago showed that 100ms was the threshold where people could start to detect
> a
> delay.
>
> David Lang
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-05 14:46 David Fernández
2024-06-05 14:57 ` Vint Cerf [this message]
2024-06-06 17:12 ` Michael Richardson
2024-06-06 10:18 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-06 10:37 ` Aidan Van Dyk
2024-06-06 10:33 ` Alexandre Petrescu
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2024-06-07 7:36 David Fernández
2024-06-05 15:16 David Fernández
2024-06-05 15:21 ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2024-06-05 15:32 ` David Fernández
2024-06-05 16:24 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-06 23:10 ` Michael Richardson
2024-06-07 1:39 ` David Lang
2024-06-07 6:20 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-07 17:41 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-07 17:51 ` David Lang
2024-06-07 20:09 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-08 1:53 ` David Lang
2024-06-05 16:23 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-06 7:07 ` David Fernández
2024-06-06 7:41 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-05-08 9:31 David Fernández
2024-05-07 12:13 David Fernández
2024-05-07 12:46 ` Dave Collier-Brown
2024-05-07 19:09 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 19:11 ` Dave Taht
2024-05-07 19:14 ` Jeremy Austin
2024-05-07 19:46 ` Dave Taht
2024-05-07 20:03 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 20:05 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-07 20:25 ` Eugene Y Chang
[not found] <mailman.2773.1714488060.1074.starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2024-04-30 18:05 ` [Starlink] It’s the Latency, FCC Colin_Higbie
2024-04-30 19:04 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 0:36 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 1:30 ` [Starlink] Itʼs " Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 1:52 ` Jim Forster
2024-05-01 3:59 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 4:12 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 18:51 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 19:18 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 21:12 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 21:27 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-05-01 22:19 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-06 11:25 ` [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem Rich Brown
2024-05-06 12:11 ` Dave Collier-Brown
2024-05-07 0:43 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 12:05 ` Dave Collier-Brown
[not found] ` <CAJUtOOhH3oPDCyo=mk=kwzm5DiFp7OZPiFu+0MzajTQqps==_g@mail.gmail.com>
2024-05-06 19:47 ` Rich Brown
2024-05-07 0:38 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 10:50 ` Rich Brown
2024-05-08 1:48 ` Dave Taht
2024-05-08 7:58 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-08 8:01 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-08 18:29 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-04 18:19 ` Stuart Cheshire
2024-06-04 20:06 ` Sauli Kiviranta
2024-06-04 20:58 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-05 11:36 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 13:08 ` Aidan Van Dyk
2024-06-05 13:28 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 13:40 ` Gert Doering
2024-06-05 13:43 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 14:16 ` David Lang
2024-06-05 15:10 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-05 16:21 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 19:17 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-04 23:03 ` Rich Brown
2024-06-06 17:51 ` Stuart Cheshire
2024-06-07 2:28 ` Dave Taht
2024-06-07 5:36 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-07 7:51 ` Gert Doering
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