From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x335.google.com (mail-wm1-x335.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::335]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 241DC3CB35 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2022 20:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wm1-x335.google.com with SMTP id v130-20020a1cac88000000b00389d0a5c511so204732wme.5 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2022 17:20:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=o5ERUU1UJ05yQaDNvmwa3kCi59M0BgpaGSJSmGfQeCk=; b=KIc2Bdnn3iq8xPRI0uFG0omwDsRXY1Z416W+rufWm1Du1jTW77t8AbHAxX3NLOUJYV FVTCEKV0GU3RPqDqTIap6nuh3b5MdSpzUcPzMQRktz7Scc+ff2YNEUZ6BLb2u72Zx2KO 1A1NLdaAcRML/8P2tVVppAYWz1NTywD+3X89ZO5BSAgREAO4iJaSsnf0XRZ796tpRgY/ dZsZnlkojeJcEfoxFs3fIFm+e9vxmJYCKx5IDuzn0a4PzVbidXa6PSgbpyJ95cqdcsug Ayb6e2ZW2FPkNDMszvdkURDb4QrNOrApmZJpnAxDheKFkM7ktA8XG/5I6t0VVfUKnIPi SoIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=o5ERUU1UJ05yQaDNvmwa3kCi59M0BgpaGSJSmGfQeCk=; b=xjM4zHNvJdK8E2CNKpLIP9TderefQzSxCFqzGqKP0J3BqWdRFD3ZKUwEWjJFYQMDt2 9vUtWqLpvJATA19QlJxjyhgPW31dbI0vMI7jmbNYHsszMoF0XCIy3/vjXFF9T0tBnlMu KIpCYYj/eaIJGOa9kVXtKWunBvwKJXb17ffTFt/lBFl+Zq8edNF3jHBGoTM7SrbXHR0N uzp1tc9X/Ifk5d59XqSz1ZEueqqr8lncbp0zlUOH+bQn3808G6CP5Dwzi/N6PMKCT4fj xWkQmaFzsqCIZbhF38FeN6NGsHnfw5kCQGhyAAIfXTdR5U70nkjkZPLPuTXnFKt2X16o 4MKw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532ZCApd9yvqc98n+ctYOd3TRaI44kHt18ESVDF5u9ABOt+GmcCc SLSqOeEgOcv54S+f1g+pbad9PtljjHCmx85RT/HtJg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyrLXpgq63CWdZO317RDOQBDC8cSRHWe3oO69ayAzuLKRMC+R0qEoiHvD8kX2tUP6ykvSKjcFNctwJlSoQQB+w= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:cc8f:0:b0:389:844e:9e28 with SMTP id p15-20020a7bcc8f000000b00389844e9e28mr5482045wma.67.1646961599820; Thu, 10 Mar 2022 17:19:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3404DB00-7F01-409A-A9CE-DC889E05EAB9@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3404DB00-7F01-409A-A9CE-DC889E05EAB9@gmail.com> From: Vint Cerf Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 20:19:48 -0500 Message-ID: To: James Hurley Cc: Dave Taht , Vasu Kaker , Make-Wifi-fast , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat , Josh Mermel , Jamie Tucker-Foltz , "Yao, Lisa (US)" Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="00000000000023756205d9e7219f" Subject: Re: [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] Talk now up: How the internet really works X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 01:20:01 -0000 --00000000000023756205d9e7219f Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001e059f05d9e721b5" --0000000000001e059f05d9e721b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just watching the first few minutes I could tell this was going to be a really fun talk - will watch the rest soon. Dave, you should consider stand-up... :-))) v On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 9:25 AM James Hurley wrote= : > Great talk Dave & MIT jugglers > > Dave is there any chance you can share the slides you were presenting in > the video? > > > On 8 Mar 2022, at 16:07, Dave Taht wrote: > > > > My talk last week at TTI Vanguard is now up on youtube. I used no > > slides, and a bunch of new simple analogies (including the world's > > most elaborate "rickroll"!) to explain the problems videoconferencing > > and voice have with competing with web traffic, with bits about > > cryptography, packet loss, bufferbloat, fair queueing and active queue > > management across all our access technologies today, as well as some > > notes as to the NTIA broadband programs and ongoing FCC measurements. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTWViGcBlnm0 > > > > My special thanks to Len and Nancy Kleinrock, and to Lisa Yao, CEO of > > TTI Vanguard, for sponsoring my talk and travel. Plug: There were a > > bunch of very interesting other talks at that conference (including > > one amazing one on quantum computing that went over my head > > completely) that I enjoyed greatly. 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just watching the first few minutes I could tell this was = going to be a really fun talk - will watch the rest soon. Dave, you should = consider stand-up... :-)))

v

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On Thu,= Mar 10, 2022 at 9:25 AM James Hurley <jamesghurley@gmail.com> wrote:
Great talk Dave & MIT jugglers

Dave is there any chance you can share the slides you were presenting in th= e video?

> On 8 Mar 2022, at 16:07, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My talk last week at TTI Vanguard is now up on youtube. I used no
> slides, and a bunch of new simple analogies (including the world's=
> most elaborate "rickroll"!) to explain the problems videocon= ferencing
> and voice have with competing with web traffic, with bits about
> cryptography, packet loss, bufferbloat, fair queueing and active queue=
> management across all our access technologies today, as well as some > notes as to the NTIA broadband programs and ongoing FCC measurements.<= br> >
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTWViGcBlnm0<= br> >
> My special thanks to Len and Nancy Kleinrock, and to Lisa Yao, CEO of<= br> > TTI Vanguard, for sponsoring my talk and travel. Plug: There were a > bunch of very interesting other talks at that conference (including > one amazing one on quantum computing that went over my head
> completely) that I enjoyed greatly. A huge thx also to my volunteers,<= br> > Jamie, Vasu, and Joshua, who went the extra mile to help out.
>
> I am of course trying to reach new audiences outside our circle with > my talk, please reshare widely?
>
> --
> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
> https://wayforward.archive.org= /?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
>
> Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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