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From: Vint Cerf <vint@google.com>
To: tom@evslin.com
Cc: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>,
	starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	e-impact@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Starlink] DataCenters in Space (was Re: fiber IXPs in space)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 21:16:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHxHggfD+Xt64yitxHHC6YmNKY81tTwLNoDM8M1og-ND7ESzPg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f0fa01d97325$3f72e9a0$be58bce0$@evslin.com>


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O&M will be a bear
v


On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 9:13 PM Tom Evslin via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> I think space-based data centers will be the rule rather than the
> exception. Wrote about that a couple of years ago although, as usual,
> things have not happened as quickly as I predicted
> https://blog.tomevslin.com/2021/07/computing-clouds-in-orbit-a-possible-roadmap.html
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of
> Michael Richardson via Starlink
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 7:35 PM
> To: starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>; e-impact@ietf.org
> Subject: [Starlink] DataCenters in Space (was Re: fiber IXPs in space)
>
>
> I saw this reported in BIS-Spaceflight.
> (I'm usually a few months behind in reading it) I like the "first
> objective"!
>
>
> https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/space/press-release/ascend-thales-alenia-space-lead-european-feasibility-study-data
>
> Cannes, November 14, 2022 – Thales Alenia Space, the joint company between
> Thales (67%) and Leonardo (33%), has been chosen by the European Commission
> to lead the ASCEND (Advanced Space Cloud for European Net zero emission and
> Data sovereignty) feasibility study for data centers in orbit, as part of
> Europe’s vast Horizon Europe research program.
>
> Digital technology’s expanding environmental footprint is becoming a major
> challenge: the burgeoning need for digitalization means that data centers
> in Europe and around the world are growing at an exponential pace, which in
> turn has a critical energy and environmental impact.
>
> The first objective of this study will be to assess if the carbon
> emissions from the production and launch of these space infrastructures
> will be significantly lower than the emissions generated by ground-based
> data centers, therefore contributing to the achievement of global carbon
> neutrality. The second objective will be to prove that it is possible to
> develop the required launch solution and to ensure the deployment and
> operability of these spaceborne data centers using robotic assistance
> technologies currently being developed in Europe, such as the EROSS IOD
> demonstrator.
>
> This project is expected to demonstrate to which extent space-based data
> centers would limit the energy and environmental impact of their ground
> counterparts, thus allowing major investments within the scope of Europe’s
> Green Deal, possibly justifying the development of a more climate-friendly,
> reusable heavy launch vehicle. Europe could thus regain its leadership in
> space transport and space logistics, as well as the assembly and operations
> of large infrastructures in orbit.
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-20  1:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-13 16:34 [Starlink] fiber IXPs in space David Fernández
2023-04-13 17:22 ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-13 18:54   ` David Fernández
2023-04-13 20:01     ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-13 20:06       ` Tom Evslin
2023-04-19 23:34       ` [Starlink] DataCenters in Space (was Re: fiber IXPs in space) Michael Richardson
2023-04-20  1:12         ` tom
2023-04-20  1:16           ` Vint Cerf [this message]
     [not found]             ` <ZECsG+Ldro3V5+/4@faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
2023-04-20  3:25               ` [Starlink] [E-impact] " Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-20  5:43             ` Daniel Schien
2023-04-20  9:31               ` Chris Adams
2023-04-20 12:50                 ` Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-20 12:51                   ` Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-27  3:13                 ` Eugene Y Chang
2023-04-20 11:10               ` Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-20 11:23                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-04-20 11:24                 ` David Lang
2023-04-20 12:06                 ` Dave Collier-Brown
2023-04-20 21:21                   ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-04-20 12:14                 ` tom
2023-04-20 14:36                 ` Rodney W. Grimes
2023-04-20 14:18               ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-27  3:50               ` David Lang
2023-04-20 11:25             ` [Starlink] " Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-20 11:27               ` Nathan Owens
2023-04-20 11:34                 ` Mike Puchol
2023-04-20 14:21                   ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-20  4:33           ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-04-20 14:12             ` Michael Richardson

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