From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x52f.google.com (mail-pg1-x52f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E77D33CB37 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2021 14:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x52f.google.com with SMTP id q126so2224556pgq.13 for ; Thu, 04 Nov 2021 11:25:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:cc; bh=eb32tydzuZuH93vdCjTt23vI1UfiF8vJ+giuWSZH3mE=; b=pcxyr3f/BpZ7vv/Q5lrluAzk6NH0mVnQnmUIGiFM4DJElpzXED1nFuFsAWXiqXJKSp /t8JFwJMrQvd6SmUGCckfUA0uhsYte9HR7+4N+K6QP5gkLSOcPu3xeB5s3xTE5UVmHBF tsDv39+BC9tn6qHRLLBsZ+XTuSWsjFSAHWQtGRyivmGHT07Ic/MzDn1ukP0xeDUvbn79 bt0Ad7+FTUTS/U9eDheVxdjb/xqk2v03MtcPluzOqAOLGFjNYBs/xnUiyIDQ+tp4qGrL t6k3Q10WRWwBJFyxb148Ikty3CebgkkjZrPmvcM+z3SWTl8CyVgIrAMgrfWwP7tIVCs/ jSYg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:cc; bh=eb32tydzuZuH93vdCjTt23vI1UfiF8vJ+giuWSZH3mE=; b=o/0sWgFICSMq023kouJV695bLHRg/2eFNtvNKHv/ml4+je7hLNqMAx9sM4JTDkJnaD FcptqMgENKtXHki79ynA7t6hMvZS9sG3QvCOZ4o3Jyxdx8g3e7s9YOjYN2vdG1ZXyiLP 0cLRsi9uM8NLKTl7IMFr7lnhhEDu9sQsR/ny/UsnKH5NfXlTvSzUQvV8jU628rk8oo8N KZ9zuVtPTj9cKNW2S6aJnrsomyPDwZ4kXKZ7FER7tG+ON0kSMq+XSk72r/G5sXFnH6H7 zYDg5XRbcBZ6O0LlAqqkqjjsGMycrNLo9WtTRupdRdX3QwJ4PuZRIahJJE6Iit/+XtLI Mihg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531OSr+Y80ph20IokWLkkAGDzvSYxbOot8yD3BlP/xF2T7BDibfc Lv1z+7iRgpGpJcpZPpQVx+kRoY+OIJD5UMsKK1DV+xtSBWc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJytzq9mKvZl1yKEK8k+a6ghSHmaGeUn3E+ZzS0doFAv6FHXaikDZT5ziXkAv706IYD6RfrKfPOnwP3uT2PSZHM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:1995:b0:47c:1f59:a27a with SMTP id d21-20020a056a00199500b0047c1f59a27amr54037369pfl.36.1636050339773; Thu, 04 Nov 2021 11:25:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7907F9D1-9511-4254-BD8F-701888EB6778@onholyground.com> <172619.1636049781@dooku> In-Reply-To: <172619.1636049781@dooku> From: Inemesit Affia Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 19:25:58 +0100 Message-ID: Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000563f5405cffaa7f9" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink tidbits from NANOG X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 18:25:41 -0000 --000000000000563f5405cffaa7f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Waves are a unit of optical transport. Similar to PON, you can get several wavelengths on the same fiber and sell them to different users, Split them at both ends. Thats the whole 'point of DWDM. It's not just faster speeds or less cable On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 7:16 PM Michael Richardson wrote: > > Thanks for bringing us this view.. > > Darrell Budic wrote: > > - v6 is deliberately > > not fully functional, but they know some of use are using it and it > > will eventually be fully activated. May be waiting on the regional > > connectivity, so will be intersting to see if changes for some areas > > and not others as they roll it out. > > Even if they used IPv6 for the "last mile" and ran NAT64, that would still > be > a major improvement over trying to run dual stack. That's what the > smarter > mobile operators are already doing. (jio, some US carriers...) > > -- > ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh > networks [ > ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network > architect [ > ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on > rails [ > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --000000000000563f5405cffaa7f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Waves are a unit of optical transport. Similar to PON, you= can get several wavelengths=C2=A0on the same fiber and sell them to differ= ent=C2=A0users, Split them at both ends. Thats the whole 'point of DWDM= . It's not just faster speeds or less cable

On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 7:16 = PM Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman= .ca> wrote:

Thanks for bringing us this view..

Darrell Budic <budic@onholyground.com> wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > - v6 is deliberately
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > not fully functional, but they know some of use are usin= g it and it
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > will eventually be fully activated. May be waiting on th= e regional
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > connectivity, so will be intersting to see if changes fo= r some areas
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > and not others as they roll it out.

Even if they used IPv6 for the "last mile" and ran NAT64, that wo= uld still be
a major improvement over trying to run dual stack.=C2=A0 =C2=A0That's w= hat the smarter
mobile operators are already doing. (jio, some US carriers...)

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