From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x52b.google.com (mail-pg1-x52b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 585F63B29D for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2023 01:55:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pg1-x52b.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-5bdb0be3591so5105919a12.2 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2023 22:55:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1700031339; x=1700636139; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=MIzQUhttULUPt7yUJV5Xla79phMXTv0/BiXu4WZZWzA=; b=Jq/IFu1s9AVwN8n9JmoX33DdMxZeL/z44U28/BMDCOK7nNrVlqfXbBpmBPnamJ3Wmm H/fL23TaktUuSbLkJ4mSVKhMes0lqnOjvQAx35f2AeX1h74sb1s1OC8guRTGEp6XnGm8 8k4o9G5rHRz6kTbeuqyexgam1hPNKNtcOBlvIPOZy5ziJRfMHQMOf8LpqGc2vUwYqdl6 W/YV3t2RN5YDm06cEyM/uVZjiRiFe362uP2abJNDILtEXsk4TcxLKFzUvz2cBxDdGH0e NfhWrEb9VYe0dytBsP0A5fYUxQhUjsEqZs7o0IC4lh/voruP2Dup6UWCeY9m+GouLfBg +0gg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1700031339; x=1700636139; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=MIzQUhttULUPt7yUJV5Xla79phMXTv0/BiXu4WZZWzA=; b=ukaxgncqPPeRbe4CU/ab5q8Ny2lqhCslbwNn6q2k/ttEHiM12fKnbtiubXwADJ/vwu PyoJdL0EqKRM7MG7KlRdDTmaxuR04F8TxgkumxCEw+3E8rTfrre51qL3OaDpfzRYzLoe 4YfuRB6U6K81bsS9J/W025D4nyEEe7iD88RAdwf6z7IBht1XsAMzb2gcvVy5DlvkcrC4 3fy2WvaypyL/0m60EbyAYT27YYLmTq4NSRYj4DAH6g7SsaL/tj0maRCj/D60vtJMRHEP kzuyWwSbhGdSEX2LpmyY3hwK3EHE78T/SjKgUu9KllA8rpMS/LeeXlx7w0iEi3vi1tWK ykYw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwPMj1uEoc0+SlhUANRowqdZeidoY7h6+7wSThzqESCG9UFZ0zf Ckw75crT7ppVQikoceT7QdUELocSOv8oOnyr0U1JsDk3eqQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFABeR1b/UOOY+B+6Uww5Co7PY3tPTaDbqWvvtoE96GZd7dVU2Kaxtg6x9E/TsFthDcgSi6uUGxGPlLdP5bvGM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:9389:b0:187:6676:67f2 with SMTP id x9-20020a056a20938900b00187667667f2mr906601pzh.62.1700031338879; Tue, 14 Nov 2023 22:55:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <34D160E7-6C8F-4882-B1C3-570DF3D3854F@connectivitycap.com> In-Reply-To: <34D160E7-6C8F-4882-B1C3-570DF3D3854F@connectivitycap.com> From: Inemesit Affia Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 07:55:25 +0100 Message-ID: To: Jim Forster Cc: Starlink Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000f9f82060a2b640d" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Question on Startlink density X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 06:55:40 -0000 --0000000000000f9f82060a2b640d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What you're planning might we'll be against the Starlink TOS. Just contact https://old.reddit.com/user/millijuna. He's done something similar Beyond that networks are networks. You estimate your peak traffic, find out the worst case speed on starlink and get software/hardware to shape & prioritize traffic/users so phone calls work when the WAN can't do video. Check out libreqos Also the owner of starlink.sx is on this mailing list and has experience with this sort of thing On Wed, Nov 15, 2023, 7:13 AM Jim Forster via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > Does Starlink=E2=80=99s beam forming support delivering services to about= 100 home > stretched over one mile? The place in question would like to do fiber, b= ut > it=E2=80=99s in a senstive area, so getting permits is tricky (cannot use= any > previously undisturbed land), and so the fiber project has dragged on. N= ow > SL is available and some are getting it. That=E2=80=99s fine, but could = it support > 100 over one linear mile? > > Thanks, > > =E2=80=94 Jim > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --0000000000000f9f82060a2b640d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What you're planning might we'll be against the S= tarlink TOS.

Just contact=C2= =A0https://old.reddit.com= /user/millijuna. He's done something similar
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Beyond that networks are networks. You estimate = your peak traffic, find out the worst case speed on starlink and get softwa= re/hardware to shape & prioritize traffic/users so phone calls work whe= n the WAN can't do video. Check out libreqos
Also the owner of s= tarlink.sx is on this mailing list and has experience with this sort=C2= =A0of thing

On Wed, Nov 15, 2023, 7:13 AM Jim Forster via Starli= nk <starlink@lists.buf= ferbloat.net> wrote:

Does Starlink=E2=80=99s beam forming support delivering services to about 1= 00 home stretched over one mile?=C2=A0 The place in question would like to = do fiber, but it=E2=80=99s in a senstive area, so getting permits is tricky= (cannot use any previously undisturbed land), and so the fiber project has= dragged on.=C2=A0 Now SL is available and some are getting it.=C2=A0 That= =E2=80=99s fine, but could it support 100 over one linear mile?

Thanks,

=C2=A0 =E2=80=94 Jim
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