From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x632.google.com (mail-ej1-x632.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::632]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AEE13B29D for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2025 02:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x632.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-abbd96bef64so1035423366b.3 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2025 23:49:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1743576565; x=1744181365; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Whb5a+IchpC02xQe1aamEJDevUqUVYU6wu2XDZlyUHw=; b=LgWyi4ZnFmIgf4jLVXGH+4RmMM9fYSyCn+wdWsZfeuoAQoSgTUp8zdarvEGjsDPVDE 4TYgos6ohPNYa9hMW7MxYA7oT8OSuN8oG5IUILKzgL+CsYF6OjY3BZG6gBZjPPCWSNK7 cEZYn0Q00Wd1rMqnDG4B6Xtu28hici+Cig1yUqysX2vzts8Zg5O7BerxPDKZqrIF9H3v Kan4SRkcV66y3ZjpoVUrYtNfboDaDQmZUMKApISlynGz3F0riUUklCgfb5KcQZyoLEZE b+diMpKw63W4Ba8MFwENASDOA0pTLGU9U9UdsSTNnuuVToP8MGXkYNCFQq0cFVSrsiJt yj3Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1743576565; x=1744181365; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Whb5a+IchpC02xQe1aamEJDevUqUVYU6wu2XDZlyUHw=; b=DRoE//0Wcn1T5335istjen/ifBeXNbBnQxJda0lYZet5NCJdA5DcuCrfHOea6QCLwC 0ubZ2d8F49ilCIlQJys/IKJTCOIg1cW7DtcHHBLbiiPxwxrqz7Rm9HGSM1AZL6iMRjJ1 lVyw5VXycxOXcDAcHF3muQMaN3+eoanPmx+5BIx0axCens5V17txnlw4MYLgY2pZ+ViN EJDRYC8Yb+NZIwV4bB52Zkki0tP/JzfX1OHc3M6bbWsU4VLsa1KFwbUHfuW0sCJbKxpx i7SpBvTxab3a2hoeNU7+e7AP1+knW5dR1B+QQkAzIZbKN970xh8ju2ZtnAtVV9egnkyh AFtQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxAASHYdR+7n1Bwuv2K6NAMNs5er23eHDdeQ3IgZX1OFMExO4/Z brFoFxMqGiYDI6Nkk/XlZPBDEcXyAfmwf2/3XPdjwF7Po15Q17bRcvyIbFghScZFJFCJ0JtUh1t lyTDKYUgWeJjO1mW5ByEmUJrHyU4= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvjKvIuLLG68kfh4lvWDQegMH7QkwI6iZXMCtEWEFEH5l3v5cW5DF3ka//qtRJ JYeLwJZOiEI5O11eTIVqUwn9Lte31Ytg0DkmFNEB39xnQSKmI3RPUWQOL5ddcA6ZL9Wm0ggNhO0 1oxePOCkFQfcjQLH34Ilr1e4l0hqA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHOParVRFTwD7msfH8tJGJLHrkKeoxUdTu2AunGmk6gI7TrSJaKAufJVDnp37xmSb0U7hwuXh68ezk/jeBSIbo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:7d8a:b0:ac6:b639:5a1b with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ac738bae085mr1266587366b.45.1743576565042; Tue, 01 Apr 2025 23:49:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Frantisek Borsik Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 08:51:01 +0200 X-Gm-Features: AQ5f1JpTssbyJSzlfxqeEElqNCP6gb-sqTEVIOrLe_ugX3hgqPCL4F-PTetXtmI Message-ID: To: J Pan Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink , Herbert Wolverson , =?UTF-8?Q?Robert_Chac=C3=B3n?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cc57070631c60d59" Subject: Re: [Starlink] leo-sat-net testbed X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 06:49:26 -0000 --000000000000cc57070631c60d59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey J Pan, Dave's colleague from LibreQoS here, we will absolutely ask right away. Forwarding this email to Dave's brother and girlfriend with you on CC. Thank you very much for this kind offer. Much appreciated. All the best, Frank Frantisek (Frank) Borsik https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 Skype: casioa5302ca frantisek.borsik@gmail.com On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:13=E2=80=AFAM J Pan via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > our testbed is approved today and will be named after dave in his > honor (a global computer network needs a global people network of > collaborators) if his family ok's. can anyone help? > -- > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, > Web.UVic.CA/~pan > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:23=E2=80=AFPM J Pan wrote: > > > > Hello All: we are putting together a proposal for a leo-sat-net > > testbed in canada (node locations due to funding constraints) but open > > to the research community worldwide. are you interested in using such > > a platform? your experience, feedback and comments are welcome too. > > cheers. -j > > > > "2nd-generation low-earth-orbit (LEO) satellite networks (LSNs), > > exemplified by SpaceX=E2=80=99s Starlink, Eutelsat=E2=80=99s OneWeb, Am= azon=E2=80=99s Project > > Kuiper and Telesat (Canada)=E2=80=99s Lightspeed, promise to revolution= ize the > > Internet access around the world on all Earth surface and above. Thus > > the research community has an urgent need to understand them > > specifically and further improve LSNs in general. However, many > > researchers are limited by the access to such systems due to > > availability, location, financial and expertise constraints. With a > > team of researchers across Canada specialized in computer networks, > > distributed systems, satellite communications, security and privacy, > > and cloud computing, this proposal builds a coast-to-coast-to-coast > > LSN testbed for Canada, leveraging the team=E2=80=99s experience partic= ularly > > in building individual LSN test nodes and federating through remote > > access, bootstrapping the team=E2=80=99s research in LSN performance, > > reliability and security, and fostering collaboration in the research > > community and with industry across Canada and beyond. Specifically, > > the testbed will deploy at least one LSN testbed node in each province > > and territory of Canada, ideally in north, remote and indigenous > > regions, given the geo-diversity needed for LSN research. The testbed > > nodes also provide Internet access to the hosts and their local > > communities if needed, given the separate virtual local area networks > > and end-to-end encryption without compromising user privacy, for at > > least one year supported by the proposal with following years > > supported by local initiatives through the economic development > > enabled by the Internet access and external sponsorship. The testbed > > will be remotely and centrally managed through the regional and > > national centers hosted by the team, maximizing the uptime and utility > > of all testbed nodes, and scheduling and prioritizing measurement and > > test tasks submitted by researchers and collaborators within or beyond > > the team, similar to what Planetlab contributed to the distributed > > systems research in early 2000s. The testbed code and measurement data > > will be open sourced and released to the research community, enabling > > trace-driven simulation and statistical analysis worldwide, liberating > > Internet access in general and specifically LSN research traditionally > > limited to population centers and financially viable institutions. > > With Canadian users at priority, the testbed will also federate with > > other similar ones in the US and around the world, e.g., LEOScope led > > by the University of Surrey, to have a true global coverage while > > allowing international users to explore Canadian geographic and > > demographic features, including those in arctic regions. The testbed > > strives for self-sustainability after initial investment by providing > > a leveled test range for LSN service providers to compete, a training > > ground for highly qualified personnel for Canadian industry, and a > > playground to attract K-12 and particularly indigenous kids to have a > > technical career." > > -- > > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, > Web.UVic.CA/~pan > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --000000000000cc57070631c60d59 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey J Pan,

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All the best,

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On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:13=E2=80=AFAM J Pan via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.= net> wrote:
our testbed is approved today = and will be named after dave in his
honor (a global computer network needs a global people network of
collaborators) if his family ok's. can anyone help?
--
J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pan<= /a>

On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:23=E2=80=AFPM J Pan <Pan@uvic.ca> wrote:
>
> Hello All: we are putting together a proposal for a leo-sat-net
> testbed in canada (node locations due to funding constraints) but open=
> to the research community worldwide. are you interested in using such<= br> > a platform? your experience, feedback and comments are welcome too. > cheers.=C2=A0 -j
>
> "2nd-generation low-earth-orbit (LEO) satellite networks (LSNs),<= br> > exemplified by SpaceX=E2=80=99s Starlink, Eutelsat=E2=80=99s OneWeb, A= mazon=E2=80=99s Project
> Kuiper and Telesat (Canada)=E2=80=99s Lightspeed, promise to revolutio= nize the
> Internet access around the world on all Earth surface and above. Thus<= br> > the research community has an urgent need to understand them
> specifically and further improve LSNs in general. However, many
> researchers are limited by the access to such systems due to
> availability, location, financial and expertise constraints. With a > team of researchers across Canada specialized in computer networks, > distributed systems, satellite communications, security and privacy, > and cloud computing, this proposal builds a coast-to-coast-to-coast > LSN testbed for Canada, leveraging the team=E2=80=99s experience parti= cularly
> in building individual LSN test nodes and federating through remote > access, bootstrapping the team=E2=80=99s research in LSN performance,<= br> > reliability and security, and fostering collaboration in the research<= br> > community and with industry across Canada and beyond. Specifically, > the testbed will deploy at least one LSN testbed node in each province=
> and territory of Canada, ideally in north, remote and indigenous
> regions, given the geo-diversity needed for LSN research. The testbed<= br> > nodes also provide Internet access to the hosts and their local
> communities if needed, given the separate virtual local area networks<= br> > and end-to-end encryption without compromising user privacy, for at > least one year supported by the proposal with following years
> supported by local initiatives through the economic development
> enabled by the Internet access and external sponsorship. The testbed > will be remotely and centrally managed through the regional and
> national centers hosted by the team, maximizing the uptime and utility=
> of all testbed nodes, and scheduling and prioritizing measurement and<= br> > test tasks submitted by researchers and collaborators within or beyond=
> the team, similar to what Planetlab contributed to the distributed
> systems research in early 2000s. The testbed code and measurement data=
> will be open sourced and released to the research community, enabling<= br> > trace-driven simulation and statistical analysis worldwide, liberating=
> Internet access in general and specifically LSN research traditionally=
> limited to population centers and financially viable institutions.
> With Canadian users at priority, the testbed will also federate with > other similar ones in the US and around the world, e.g., LEOScope led<= br> > by the University of Surrey, to have a true global coverage while
> allowing international users to explore Canadian geographic and
> demographic features, including those in arctic regions. The testbed > strives for self-sustainability after initial investment by providing<= br> > a leveled test range for LSN service providers to compete, a training<= br> > ground for highly qualified personnel for Canadian industry, and a
> playground to attract K-12 and particularly indigenous kids to have a<= br> > technical career."
> --
> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/= ~pan
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