From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x82f.google.com (mail-qt1-x82f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05C5F3B29E for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 16:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt1-x82f.google.com with SMTP id d75a77b69052e-4122436627eso8016621cf.3 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 13:40:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1694724023; x=1695328823; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=tt1PbsWcLWQL0SI26CgEzTipHGvE1NebSu0VKg4W/yo=; b=o9xxtsOMfvkWrLsuClNAo++M8azFb8Ik46h8RV6Hgx5/8TAo7l6wIWZqB7WgUoGPiJ PJ1lXJA6uK+eHOpLUfA1Ok5iUpdrhFberC7KRjwikuy77/XVggk+W92tdGpWF6sj0leM SSOOS600mJp39RE7f1TpEjV+0imOiZGmJuq5RkULaVjS0hKCdEYHEnTjSqysyjasjT70 0UaQ/8x1Cg0dCKrHN+eSpADkovMmXs1RguOsZ9DsHZlN0q3NSJAKPLS140MTwE041ztE EIOR1GvE9XvznYM0K/m5oxLwg0MrWDiHAZS1TJ15FDav5snDqEX5wZdhcyxm/stppPoS K8Aw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1694724023; x=1695328823; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=tt1PbsWcLWQL0SI26CgEzTipHGvE1NebSu0VKg4W/yo=; b=IjHegIqI8vVtqSJ7tZo7Zo2hA0KGOFpMbJr+SzmoYGZlK5aEq8YueFF5VmZRNf719S OLqREoHA8wEboUY+ajqhedDoR7hWGKww0O0rXPu97MiqAoia6Nb7mQVGgIzy2LCssdbm O1JvcRWGmMs9Vio/j6IsnjagBtbjke7ee4UgHlVupzcuCMmBvFKPczdD9l/BiUCvdCUR s/xl0Q5/wrd0MMWiMNbx/lC0cJNBMdo/sG2RBzZTHwSW/ec5GAUxnU/GkzaVjOXPo+fg QqxX6lcE3K8t3AjJBKoRbB2fyjdFJuX/ARqCr62uUT00TkYTDm3qxw7OLZLrl67fhghQ E+ZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxdeqLoAS9/STcRu2Ol5r6wE0nT1uW0dtIWmabvW6ZYigYBz73r 7v5u1SNwL8pktk0U8We3Lvfuxu2RpfPToVmGoQYR+HTD X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGb6VGIigM0fvnYSNMmE/CnHe0rrVT2Cmy3ev+D3GxeEIGm5LH4shyvkPWj9VseyQXdn1DjPOie2KIf3fH6fp4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:14cf:b0:410:840c:def7 with SMTP id u15-20020a05622a14cf00b00410840cdef7mr6908873qtx.25.1694724023175; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 13:40:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Frantisek Borsik Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 22:39:47 +0200 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000064ce37060557aff5" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Elon Musk hooked up on Starlink in-flight, speaking at All-in Summit X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 20:40:24 -0000 --00000000000064ce37060557aff5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So basically chicken will really come home to roost - when there will be more concurrent users in-flight. Current Starlink users, although they may experience more than 1 end device using it at time, it's not exactly 20 people aboard of an aircraft. Would be good to know which airliners are using it nowadays and if they chicken came home to roost already :-) All the best, Frank Frantisek (Frank) Borsik https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 Skype: casioa5302ca frantisek.borsik@gmail.com On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 7:44=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht wro= te: > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 8:43=E2=80=AFAM Frantisek Borsik via Starlink < > starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >> Starting at 1:00, he has mentioned sub 20 ms latency, some other >> airliners hooked up to Starlink as well: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtKqJ5-kkUGk >> >> If only someone from Starlink would listen to Dave and plugged him in t= o >> fix all that: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrwgw >> > > They will figure it out eventually, when two or more people try to use it > on the same flight, with a mix of > video and videoconferencing traffic. > > >> >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Frank >> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik >> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 >> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 >> Skype: casioa5302ca >> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >> > > > -- > Oct 30: > https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > --00000000000064ce37060557aff5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So basically chicken will really come home to roost - when= there will be more concurrent users in-flight.=C2=A0
Current Starlink = users, although they may experience more than 1 end device using it at time= , it's not exactly 20 people aboard of an aircraft.

Would be good to know which airliners are using it nowadays and if th= ey chicken came home to roost already :-)

All the best,

Frank

Frantisek (Frank) Borsik

=C2=A0

https:/= /www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik

Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +4219194167= 14=C2=A0

iMessage, mobile: +420775230885

Skype: casioa5302ca

frantisek= .borsik@gmail.com



On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 7:44=E2= =80=AFPM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gma= il.com> wrote:


On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 8:43=E2=80=AFAM Frantisek Borsik via S= tarlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
Starting at 1:00, he has mentioned sub 20 ms laten= cy, some other airliners hooked up to Starlink as well:

If only someone from Starlink= would listen to Dave and =C2=A0plugged him in to fix all that:


They= will figure it out eventually, when two or more people try to use it on th= e same flight, with a mix of=C2=A0
video and videoconferencing tr= affic.=C2=A0
=C2=A0



All the best,

Frank
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