From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ed1-x52d.google.com (mail-ed1-x52d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CA713B29E for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2025 12:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ed1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5efe8d9ebdfso2268226a12.3 for ; Thu, 03 Apr 2025 09:45:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1743698747; x=1744303547; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=GMw8/RU026iFNSoDSfwS9SEHeHNaVtl1xQ9JluEpTnA=; b=P3HiipCIhou7SbGh8A6DHP8X5Zi0Cu3WIX7Bpjiw2/Zyv7SQWw705LKG0VRDq02qfu oXwxGcFHTD6XojcpvPHqfnOWpDvlXusvoVKkFnrCmnAzMEklyw6t185R2JDoYHRjU2lW D1CwOrJa/XLmOTxA+LHwQhzlRnjs5yLXFiNbfkPqaeD8jgFhExel3XwMJ1T9/ffKTDtY vayyacIMzbLU6FKUMt27KYhuUyl4zLFyK++JVGsECHlVrTEufYTktwws/nLFKJ0LTnNu zOCS59s/8gDhJ8x5p0Tl4rtLyutxam4IiM8F6pF0ggE8nftYzURPfnM4mw+K3bKw3/Mn ShlQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1743698747; x=1744303547; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=GMw8/RU026iFNSoDSfwS9SEHeHNaVtl1xQ9JluEpTnA=; b=r3j+3SCEqSDjnRu8TIbPx2YeVyxXhnegDOv4F0+oR1I3Dfe0pJSUgQ07Td1aDZmVx0 bcrLtwYoqaM/0iI4aHR+nARwD0vZNcw5xmiwmvjwghdAEmLzdSMdHybQHN1Wn7yZPOxy 66Lx76uB04hZxsfB3ifWCj0lez+DE9OnXmgYWqagzfk7nfOqjRThG+PpY6W6oPU7D94C QsRUXzxh8o8cs/ZV1ASAqeTBVCL75Gr7kQNQ8L4d8aSsuP6S2CL0+lj1x6nGbF6K/g4O Nj6OoRRtW9qBTPud1sJEadOCgi+OBIq33ekYe9fcAm8i0wBxb4O9qjDgErCUM+5ZQa1O 6qkQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwYsuXlw/SvKQ4HgE/Kwtra/EW7HkDBEAqvMv8H0yfj648JzaJg kw1qHDNRp4VhfSosBh8mNDdevIm/MjNJ5hE9RLwTVdoLe8k64HVJFIeLT3feXMip0bq2ZMjhceV nnmm4049cbq9l+xiSVdMbjsF5oE4= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncs6lyJqGH3Wh3JfvRmqCuTnnuZUZRO+DOuc5q6xK5Lbb+7+4dD2eeX0XGHwWsr tB39feVYJDKoSinsywQOPHvYJswVMAEnHeUCM9XIAvGM330XTNXJ8QTvSTSDs1W2dxf9HVxFGp8 ovz9AEn2DeADPwry9iqKcwf/vN398= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF8QSX8Vx9XoFDvXEHuue/7pg566QKwcZMWSzyhGwVtFY4Ix6Kv05ADl+serd3E9z+GyaHyE2rkzlwtuotK490= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:7291:b0:ac2:a4ec:46c2 with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ac7d1b9c1demr18338766b.49.1743698747107; Thu, 03 Apr 2025 09:45:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Frantisek Borsik Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 18:47:28 +0200 X-Gm-Features: AQ5f1Jo8-smwLDUdh8R7RHfyMXuLY7Aj0-OnjZrxj9r_94JI5Y7xR1We--wfpSI Message-ID: To: J Pan Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink , Herbert Wolverson , =?UTF-8?Q?Robert_Chac=C3=B3n?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006ab4bd0631e28041" Subject: Re: [Starlink] leo-sat-net testbed X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2025 16:45:48 -0000 --0000000000006ab4bd0631e28041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you very much for this, J Pan. Very much appreciated! All the best, Frank Frantisek (Frank) Borsik https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 Skype: casioa5302ca frantisek.borsik@gmail.com On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 6:43=E2=80=AFPM J Pan wrote: > Thanks Frantisek: glad to see dave's brother's blessing on naming the > testbed after dave, and i will follow up with them there. more people > taking networking for granted shall know dave and his stories as well > -- > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, > Web.UVic.CA/~pan > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 11:49=E2=80=AFPM Frantisek Borsik > wrote: > > > > Hey J Pan, > > > > Dave's colleague from LibreQoS here, we will absolutely ask right away. > > Forwarding this email to Dave's brother and girlfriend with you on CC. > > > > Thank you very much for this kind offer. Much appreciated. > > > > All the best, > > > > Frank > > > > Frantisek (Frank) Borsik > > > > > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik > > > > Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 > > > > iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 > > > > Skype: casioa5302ca > > > > frantisek.borsik@gmail.com > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:13=E2=80=AFAM J Pan via Starlink < > starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >> > >> our testbed is approved today and will be named after dave in his > >> honor (a global computer network needs a global people network of > >> collaborators) if his family ok's. can anyone help? > >> -- > >> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, > Web.UVic.CA/~pan > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:23=E2=80=AFPM J Pan wrote: > >> > > >> > Hello All: we are putting together a proposal for a leo-sat-net > >> > testbed in canada (node locations due to funding constraints) but op= en > >> > to the research community worldwide. are you interested in using suc= h > >> > a platform? your experience, feedback and comments are welcome too. > >> > cheers. -j > >> > > >> > "2nd-generation low-earth-orbit (LEO) satellite networks (LSNs), > >> > exemplified by SpaceX=E2=80=99s Starlink, Eutelsat=E2=80=99s OneWeb,= Amazon=E2=80=99s Project > >> > Kuiper and Telesat (Canada)=E2=80=99s Lightspeed, promise to revolut= ionize the > >> > Internet access around the world on all Earth surface and above. Thu= s > >> > the research community has an urgent need to understand them > >> > specifically and further improve LSNs in general. However, many > >> > researchers are limited by the access to such systems due to > >> > availability, location, financial and expertise constraints. With a > >> > team of researchers across Canada specialized in computer networks, > >> > distributed systems, satellite communications, security and privacy, > >> > and cloud computing, this proposal builds a coast-to-coast-to-coast > >> > LSN testbed for Canada, leveraging the team=E2=80=99s experience par= ticularly > >> > in building individual LSN test nodes and federating through remote > >> > access, bootstrapping the team=E2=80=99s research in LSN performance= , > >> > reliability and security, and fostering collaboration in the researc= h > >> > community and with industry across Canada and beyond. Specifically, > >> > the testbed will deploy at least one LSN testbed node in each provin= ce > >> > and territory of Canada, ideally in north, remote and indigenous > >> > regions, given the geo-diversity needed for LSN research. The testbe= d > >> > nodes also provide Internet access to the hosts and their local > >> > communities if needed, given the separate virtual local area network= s > >> > and end-to-end encryption without compromising user privacy, for at > >> > least one year supported by the proposal with following years > >> > supported by local initiatives through the economic development > >> > enabled by the Internet access and external sponsorship. The testbed > >> > will be remotely and centrally managed through the regional and > >> > national centers hosted by the team, maximizing the uptime and utili= ty > >> > of all testbed nodes, and scheduling and prioritizing measurement an= d > >> > test tasks submitted by researchers and collaborators within or beyo= nd > >> > the team, similar to what Planetlab contributed to the distributed > >> > systems research in early 2000s. The testbed code and measurement da= ta > >> > will be open sourced and released to the research community, enablin= g > >> > trace-driven simulation and statistical analysis worldwide, liberati= ng > >> > Internet access in general and specifically LSN research traditional= ly > >> > limited to population centers and financially viable institutions. > >> > With Canadian users at priority, the testbed will also federate with > >> > other similar ones in the US and around the world, e.g., LEOScope le= d > >> > by the University of Surrey, to have a true global coverage while > >> > allowing international users to explore Canadian geographic and > >> > demographic features, including those in arctic regions. The testbed > >> > strives for self-sustainability after initial investment by providin= g > >> > a leveled test range for LSN service providers to compete, a trainin= g > >> > ground for highly qualified personnel for Canadian industry, and a > >> > playground to attract K-12 and particularly indigenous kids to have = a > >> > technical career." > >> > -- > >> > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, > Web.UVic.CA/~pan > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Starlink mailing list > >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --0000000000006ab4bd0631e28041 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you very much for this, J Pan.

Very much appreciated!

All the best,<= /div>

Frank

= Frantisek (Frank) Borsik

=C2=A0

https://www.linkedin.co= m/in/frantisekborsik

Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714=C2=A0<= u>

iMessage, mo= bile: +420775230885

Skype: casioa5302ca

frantisek.borsik@gmail.co= m

=


=
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 6:43=E2=80=AFP= M J Pan <Pan@uvic.ca> wrote:
Thanks Frantisek: glad to see dave's brother's= blessing on naming the
testbed after dave, and i will follow up with them there. more people
taking networking for granted shall know dave and his stories as well
--
J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pan<= /a>

On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 11:49=E2=80=AFPM Frantisek Borsik
<frantis= ek.borsik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey J Pan,
>
> Dave's colleague from LibreQoS here, we will absolutely ask right = away.
> Forwarding this email to Dave's brother and girlfriend with you on= CC.
>
> Thank you very much for this kind offer. Much appreciated.
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
>
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
>
> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714
>
> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
>
> Skype: casioa5302ca
>
> franti= sek.borsik@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:13=E2=80=AFAM J Pan via Starlink <starlink@lists= .bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>> our testbed is approved today and will be named after dave in his<= br> >> honor (a global computer network needs a global people network of<= br> >> collaborators) if his family ok's. can anyone help?
>> --
>> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic= .CA/~pan
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:23=E2=80=AFPM J Pan <Pan@uvic.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello All: we are putting together a proposal for a leo-sat-n= et
>> > testbed in canada (node locations due to funding constraints)= but open
>> > to the research community worldwide. are you interested in us= ing such
>> > a platform? your experience, feedback and comments are welcom= e too.
>> > cheers.=C2=A0 -j
>> >
>> > "2nd-generation low-earth-orbit (LEO) satellite networks= (LSNs),
>> > exemplified by SpaceX=E2=80=99s Starlink, Eutelsat=E2=80=99s = OneWeb, Amazon=E2=80=99s Project
>> > Kuiper and Telesat (Canada)=E2=80=99s Lightspeed, promise to = revolutionize the
>> > Internet access around the world on all Earth surface and abo= ve. Thus
>> > the research community has an urgent need to understand them<= br> >> > specifically and further improve LSNs in general. However, ma= ny
>> > researchers are limited by the access to such systems due to<= br> >> > availability, location, financial and expertise constraints. = With a
>> > team of researchers across Canada specialized in computer net= works,
>> > distributed systems, satellite communications, security and p= rivacy,
>> > and cloud computing, this proposal builds a coast-to-coast-to= -coast
>> > LSN testbed for Canada, leveraging the team=E2=80=99s experie= nce particularly
>> > in building individual LSN test nodes and federating through = remote
>> > access, bootstrapping the team=E2=80=99s research in LSN perf= ormance,
>> > reliability and security, and fostering collaboration in the = research
>> > community and with industry across Canada and beyond. Specifi= cally,
>> > the testbed will deploy at least one LSN testbed node in each= province
>> > and territory of Canada, ideally in north, remote and indigen= ous
>> > regions, given the geo-diversity needed for LSN research. The= testbed
>> > nodes also provide Internet access to the hosts and their loc= al
>> > communities if needed, given the separate virtual local area = networks
>> > and end-to-end encryption without compromising user privacy, = for at
>> > least one year supported by the proposal with following years=
>> > supported by local initiatives through the economic developme= nt
>> > enabled by the Internet access and external sponsorship. The = testbed
>> > will be remotely and centrally managed through the regional a= nd
>> > national centers hosted by the team, maximizing the uptime an= d utility
>> > of all testbed nodes, and scheduling and prioritizing measure= ment and
>> > test tasks submitted by researchers and collaborators within = or beyond
>> > the team, similar to what Planetlab contributed to the distri= buted
>> > systems research in early 2000s. The testbed code and measure= ment data
>> > will be open sourced and released to the research community, = enabling
>> > trace-driven simulation and statistical analysis worldwide, l= iberating
>> > Internet access in general and specifically LSN research trad= itionally
>> > limited to population centers and financially viable institut= ions.
>> > With Canadian users at priority, the testbed will also federa= te with
>> > other similar ones in the US and around the world, e.g., LEOS= cope led
>> > by the University of Surrey, to have a true global coverage w= hile
>> > allowing international users to explore Canadian geographic a= nd
>> > demographic features, including those in arctic regions. The = testbed
>> > strives for self-sustainability after initial investment by p= roviding
>> > a leveled test range for LSN service providers to compete, a = training
>> > ground for highly qualified personnel for Canadian industry, = and a
>> > playground to attract K-12 and particularly indigenous kids t= o have a
>> > technical career."
>> > --
>> > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, <= a href=3D"http://Web.UVic.CA/~pan" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Web= .UVic.CA/~pan
>> _______________________________________________
>> Starlink mailing list
>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starl= ink
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