From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=pass (Used From Domain Record) header.from=gmail.com policy.dmarc=quarantine Received: from mail-ej1-x629.google.com (mail-ej1-x629.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::629]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80182714725 for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2025 07:32:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-ej1-x629.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-b3727611c1bso1273818166b.1 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2025 22:32:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1759296771; x=1759901571; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=g7tLwH++2IpnLmoLLWe+RhZmv4yYGREyEmj0T0ZFXOI=; b=BcxtJdbl3M0d/kpYcxVLqsrGHKOZKbyzlfFg1OmuC4aG/RQkDiFKX9aMKnFEB1rdlt Sbjj3NdXPr/e9Esjz2puGc5WYM8cRVB9cVsEnU3XxBh1rzW64xBY/DqjG0B6MJzCCBm4 bDDu01R/n7kCCPKVlKqaZswxbCa6zmKKfVhrQ4eOYSDl4BPLrhPxjlkaYxjc7bqBxKNf z5b9xTI2jvsQj48bMZSs/gfJx9XUVkpBHOjx4OPeRVHLF5MLym4+A9SX5vR2dlLm9YVQ k24WXFgGrdoKLdBze8zOLXeJ/JV2w3YPJP9ybTVdNu2La0hEkHitk8oWOcWZ9u6CZg4H f/Qw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1759296771; x=1759901571; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=g7tLwH++2IpnLmoLLWe+RhZmv4yYGREyEmj0T0ZFXOI=; b=cjVhhyga7AmX3G94ck1lxkteByCoWgCRM+4rsOGAglPEcENjVQcyD9GDSTg/plDj0s lP9hMjtgvze9YV3dU3Ag6aURkAWBGRsDk40+jM/HND9aJWN1YjgZ2gofGFH31p+bhkiI lcnL53/QLcJyJqxJ6j/h6Hw+vFyT+0GB2nF/XwdciOrhSEFBH6Hg2ZgFUTxkVn/XZuff uCdt+KwSBOP0HvxACfe1lyI0kYbXr9GFtHMMbrwUUbD9NMiYBES6dPGULdky0ZYiIVCI 5YXR+88bf4yFxEAlERG4/b241+VFFwj73GdhYGT2kU1d0ahSSooKCV3rHI74qt4ReGRd ffNw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw9/M2w7ToU4yKqNe7EElfARw5syUF9+WIl/uMO12nZztQwD9bj 1bMFepgSMxRIf5Qrag0GXPVd83547NEJl7KaohbrzGZ0h+GAyXaZw5KUVmd+Ly2kscrwrOVYUGO LT3w57stFY8UkiNaeagLlUetsxDv4bBrvR0KM1zU= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvROhFk9n2fkiedile2eKXSLNZgOHPo+V/OXzAi2phaQCSlhzQCu/vQavcUn5M DijFzja9cKadsnMrT0dIYwoSBZemf7AQvuFgixL1d8FrSz8VufRqxnSCFeap9aiEeJvw1QQr7Ze +vC/ZNvhk3AN/FNm/FpIliPhPuF1Q2ybLZngrjf0jnj1XR8DysnZJD5q48ZOCPWwdXWNMM+D8sY KL19t8qf04pVJNLydnc0K3TS8rzmGk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHp2lqEGbybg1xd82O/qtBCAXAFYQ958vlukgotVpqzmi01lXvKQdOGPSyr67KhDVXbyhLOtEJXyXRPjfYgZ7k= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:2684:b0:afe:d590:b6af with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-b46e5358be8mr266822366b.20.1759296771205; Tue, 30 Sep 2025 22:32:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Frantisek Borsik Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2025 07:34:21 +0200 X-Gm-Features: AS18NWDa41VAngbJSAUe1HlRLfTu0s9_5wUmjh9YBxykTxOJh1-EQyLrZsIvinQ Message-ID: To: Dave Taht via Starlink Message-ID-Hash: VHB3LF5ZNXLNGAFUQZQBTGMBRFTPJB6Y X-Message-ID-Hash: VHB3LF5ZNXLNGAFUQZQBTGMBRFTPJB6Y X-MailFrom: frantisek.borsik@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 3.3.10 X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Lost in Space: The Limits of Geolocation in a Satellite-Connected World (new article from Geoff Huston) List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: aHR0cHM6Ly9jaXJjbGVpZC5jb20vcG9zdHMvbGltaXRzLW9mLWdlb2xvY2F0aW9uLWluLWEtc2F0 ZWxsaXRlLWNvbm5lY3RlZC13b3JsZA0KDQrigJxXaGVyZSBhcmUgeW91P+KAnSBpcyBub3QgYW4g ZWFzeSBxdWVzdGlvbiB0byBhbnN3ZXIgb24gdGhlIEludGVybmV0LiBUaGUNCnRlbGVwaG9uZSBz eXN0ZW3igJlzIGFkZHJlc3MgcGxhbiBlbWJlZGRlZCBhIGNlcnRhaW4gYW1vdW50IG9mIHBoeXNp Y2FsDQpsb2NhdGlvbiBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbiBpbiB0aGUgZml4ZWQtbGluZSBuZXR3b3JrLCBhbmQg YSBmdWxsIEUuMTY0IHRlbGVwaG9uZQ0KbnVtYmVyIGluZGljYXRlZCB5b3VyIGxvY2F0aW9uIGlu IHRlcm1zIG9mIHlvdXIgY291bnRyeSBhbmQgeW91ciBhcmVhDQp3aXRoaW4gdGhhdCBjb3VudHJ5 LiBUaGUgSW50ZXJuZXQgZGlkIG5vdCBhZG9wdCBhIGdlb2dyYXBoaWMgYWRkcmVzcyBwbGFuLA0K d2hpY2ggbWVhbnMgdGhhdCB5b3Ugd2lsbCBuZWVkIGEgbG90IG9mIGFkZGl0aW9uYWwgaW5mb3Jt YXRpb24gdG8gbWFwIGFuIElQDQphZGRyZXNzIHRvIGEgbG9jYXRpb24gYXQgdGhlIGNvdW50cnkg b3IgY2l0eSBsZXZlbC4iDQoNCkFsbCB0aGUgYmVzdCwNCg0KRnJhbmsNCg0KRnJhbnRpc2VrIChG cmFuaykgQm9yc2lrDQoNCg0KKkluIGxvdmluZyBtZW1vcnkgb2YgRGF2ZSBUw6RodDogKjE5NjUt MjAyNQ0KDQpodHRwczovL2xpYnJlcW9zLmlvLzIwMjUvMDQvMDEvaW4tbG92aW5nLW1lbW9yeS1v Zi1kYXZlLw0KDQoNCmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmxpbmtlZGluLmNvbS9pbi9mcmFudGlzZWtib3JzaWsN Cg0KU2lnbmFsLCBUZWxlZ3JhbSwgV2hhdHNBcHA6ICs0MjE5MTk0MTY3MTQNCg0KaU1lc3NhZ2Us IG1vYmlsZTogKzQyMDc3NTIzMDg4NQ0KDQpTa3lwZTogY2FzaW9hNTMwMmNhDQoNCmZyYW50aXNl ay5ib3JzaWtAZ21haWwuY29tDQo=