From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x835.google.com (mail-qt1-x835.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::835]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B7CA3CB38 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2023 15:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt1-x835.google.com with SMTP id d75a77b69052e-41cd9a71d3cso39982031cf.1 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2023 12:58:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1698695937; x=1699300737; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8LIGw6xT/GkQB8k7ofE4qM4sfdUjvD4T3vgA3vnCXks=; b=IqFL+5KjjbBUIMNP4vCSUxnf2HnmV1JYgCCCNWqwuhj89U2crEGD81h5la38OMvRjd nTDoBuQWyGoQdeV9rcgTqsHum80uS37qFOd5v1mrOnGtywhhjyKGaxYCkMGoPDZpDI3/ SN8XCHIyBzRO2OJxNieyFjHi9Nuo3sgW9zteqMNtfTYvQXObPnCKTc5B5z1X1JCvPnf6 Zp5PawKG9b/tEnukW+hEfS5TS8CK77Ti4nTAFgz0KP+27RfeExxtQLYVa8GqKiN9B65z JGl2ZBU5p+y140XbyRXbxn/RnRjK/4cFhlQ8HPirmd4rdRgdnCAIpYUCwtfB4tn0ZqYm Apqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698695937; x=1699300737; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8LIGw6xT/GkQB8k7ofE4qM4sfdUjvD4T3vgA3vnCXks=; b=nIxjLfz8dNjP43sKn0AX3gqmmwSqVKsrUQvL7zDnz120lrmrNUm0NLg/kUqs+Of6de GiBnPeaHxPxRkX0Hhxt0MvCThQvGtI43+DEijLdNkxAW4op5k3RrOXanxwUr0GXojpHa D8v541g+RXpHZSayXbLHKhRikLU6EFtkn5Ui48SJKSqX8NIQVdut38nzOUIrY48iQWvL XVPtEiyy9gwNaivfeMblN5m4kEp3P/+yTXbZUBlsVc4lHWOHb9cn2+OSXk8qSMY2pG0l TL+uHKnzuZ2Bg6tEXcS0fX96XPtIU3JG2siFIY9/R37uALZk92AfKKs6K6bIiXvtIOrf TKog== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw7zKG32+T7OEv1Gs5wF1QaivZsjRr+8kd+drb4yZAWPDDnCvfF mn3mHkqBHsTSmqALsy71R2Uo5A+/W+BaMuAuzQGJPOR5pnkEFw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFfED1siQcN/juitRvZTWUFdZxS+6pcfzdag686Wz++xl9CHDdPjlNyEuWo6QdlR/HTmGPFZHjstxtL+hvlHaA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:11cc:b0:418:cec:5e64 with SMTP id n12-20020a05622a11cc00b004180cec5e64mr1151615qtk.19.1698695937197; Mon, 30 Oct 2023 12:58:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1443dd3b-67b1-4ace-a71c-26728b1632e0@falco.ca> In-Reply-To: From: Frantisek Borsik Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 20:58:20 +0100 Message-ID: To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000eb0be50608f47713" Subject: Re: [Starlink] "Interesting set of developments with Starlink. Musk says they will support "international aid orgs" in Gaza, Israel now says they will use "all available means" to stop SpaceX from doing so. X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 19:58:58 -0000 --000000000000eb0be50608f47713 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All Souls' Day is coming here in Central Europe (not sure about the observance in the rest of Europe) and Halloween is almost here - so I have visited cemeteries of my ancestors in Slovakia. And as we were there, my parents told us stories from WWII and the Iron Curtain era, both related to HAMs. My great great grand father's family in Northern Slovakia, close to Poland, was giving a shelter and help to partisan groups during Slovak National Uprising in the WWII and once Germans find them in their house, during the raid. They got the whole family lined-up and firing squad ready - if there wouldn't be for a double agent in their ranks that have managed to stop it, my great grand mother, their only child, wouldn't be alive. Sadly, I was only a teenager when she passed away in 2000 and so I didn't managed to talk with her enough about those horrible days of WWII. Later on, her son (my grand father) was accused of using HAM to talk to the West in the early 60's, after the communist take over of Czechoslovakia (1948). Czechoslovak counterpart of KGB, so called StB (Czechoslovak state security service) was investigating him - as a result, my father was banned from studying at the university and so on. (Side note: that KGB was not the worst of the secret services behind the Iron Curtain - Stasi in the East Germany was in many cases calmed down by KGB, even the number of agents and informants at Stasi were higher than the "rookie numbers" at KGB, and StB was also in some aspects worse than KGB.) On my mother' side, my great grand father left to the US and Canada in the early 30s. He worked in various mines, digging coal. After WWII, he has returned home...and then in 1948, fucking communist took everything from him and he died from a heart attack when it happened. I hope that Gaza/Palestine and Israel situation will get sorted out rather soon. Both countries have all the rights to existence and the world need peace and cooperation, not WWIII. Sending you all a song called "You, me and the World War Three" and hoping for the best for the world. All the best, Frank Frantisek (Frank) Borsik https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 Skype: casioa5302ca frantisek.borsik@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 7:48=E2=80=AFPM Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > Le 30/10/2023 =C3=A0 18:46, Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink a =C3=A9crit : > > On 2023-10-29 at 09:26, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: > > [...] > > There is an irony in this: Wasn't the internet a military project > > meant to survive armageddon? > > This is an excellent point, indeed. > > We want an originally-military technology to be delivered precisely to > civilians only, and not mistake it. > > It is a challenge. > > Alex > > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --000000000000eb0be50608f47713 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All Souls' Day is coming here in Central Europe (= not sure about the observance in the rest of Europe) and Halloween is almos= t here - so I have visited cemeteries of my ancestors in Slovakia. And as w= e were there, my parents told us stories from WWII and the Iron Curtain era= , both related to HAMs.

My great great grand f= ather's family in Northern Slovakia, close to Poland, was giving a shel= ter and help to partisan groups during Slovak National Uprising in the WWII and= once Germans find them in their house, during the raid. They got the whole= family lined-up and firing squad ready - if there wouldn't be for a do= uble agent in their ranks that have managed to stop it, my great grand moth= er, their only child, wouldn't be alive. Sadly, I was only a teenager w= hen she passed away in 2000 and so I didn't managed to talk with her en= ough about those horrible days of WWII.=C2=A0

Late= r on, her son (my grand father) was accused of using HAM to talk to the Wes= t in the early 60's, after the communist take over of Czechoslovakia (1= 948). Czechoslovak counterpart of KGB, so called StB (Czechoslovak state security service) was inves= tigating him - as a result, my father was banned from studying at the unive= rsity and so on.=C2=A0
(Side note: that KGB was not the worst of = the secret services behind the Iron Curtain - Stasi in the East Germany was= in many cases calmed down by KGB, even the number of agents and informants= at Stasi were higher than the "rookie numbers" at KGB, and StB w= as also in some aspects worse than KGB.)

On my mot= her' side, my great grand father left to the US and Canada in the early= 30s. He worked in various mines, digging coal. After WWII, he has returned= home...and then in 1948, fucking communist took everything from him and he= died from a heart attack when it happened.=C2=A0

= I hope that Gaza/Palestine and Israel situation will get sorted out rather = soon. Both countries have all the rights to existence and the world need pe= ace and cooperation, not WWIII.

Sending you all a = song called "= ;You, me and the World War Three" and hoping for the best for the = world.

<= div>
All the best,

=

Frank

Frantisek (Frank) Borsik<= u>

=C2=A0

https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik<= u>

Signa= l, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714=C2=A0

iMessage, mobile: +420775230885

Skype: cas= ioa5302ca

frantisek.borsik@gmail.com


On Mon, O= ct 30, 2023 at 7:48=E2=80=AFPM Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

Le 30/10/2023 =C3=A0 18:46, Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink a =C3=A9crit=C2= =A0:
> On 2023-10-29 at 09:26, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote:
> [...]
> There is an irony in this: Wasn't the internet a military project =
> meant to survive armageddon?

This is an excellent point, indeed.

We want an originally-military technology to be delivered precisely to
civilians only, and not mistake it.

It is a challenge.

Alex


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