From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ed1-x535.google.com (mail-ed1-x535.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::535]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D3263B2A4 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2025 08:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ed1-x535.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-60789b450ceso2055194a12.2 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2025 05:26:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1749299209; x=1749904009; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Y3rCAFluQ/FCyTLZ4zYk6MD6kkPhC/FS35oLJpq6/6o=; b=lK3nX8w2S81l6hIYCKiAyHEi153VKXNR+h/hgqQM29igCrcAQDiUpUKDttu1qrxleS hscb8xkIBpn0CuNcCV/g3Mf7xDX/07gZQcrKgOKwRSD21mYNHOZCwq5Aq1m3XZLd5cY3 qb5+FkocEHV+G2HaWGqVkEMCIYz35JRZD8COOxZxeLbuAt9PHmYx/aJFdK+/FtzdM50l lKuMaQJ3/S23S9TLdl00MfhhePz3aA+mMOnwa/AAorAEbdmXHkbldxIyXVm0g3XRoaMd voXJhjcinzWUWtcdqiWrfPUFgDnelnfRZYSNqWoWK8rHNJ94ds3ffjy3DhF/S8Tzt/j/ 2D5g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1749299209; x=1749904009; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Y3rCAFluQ/FCyTLZ4zYk6MD6kkPhC/FS35oLJpq6/6o=; b=mq7vrqSoe/swtXhQHBDXC7MQagv1PcOdK/Oz5mW1qr4A+P93P02z9sCIwe4g+LXVnO QtvYv4UgXu9jE7w4aE9itMGGVIULtdFn9iinPTgzwovsenIBrCOxGxHQfe6e6T3fynDu xo7uEeK1oYQblSJ7mrdj2JbgsDDtcJ/PTPC8f9UWGobw3B/TvhvioQadfwgoEaXUSynT qCKouhbGWKxFdExNtrBeoO0hwe64PeYfWYyFTpEBKTTJI82aVIQjPBXcoPJRAj3PcbCa PW08CwjEpOnmfo2bmoNxBPKp9nG56vF/b/UaO3NFc5FCbvlUxFJV1r/0kGnH6u05Rv1u X8/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzjXAhH34yaHcCaiwaTCau2AZHCamW4Ft6DBQuW/3No6VvolPa4 9GDzklpk5nv/rMyG0ML1xmpGEItc9URYQRcQPT+qifu45KqHk4v9BrD7BJh5Ptr9qxwnHoX0cFi YdDX4yh25D7J0AG5BUvtdg1On7nSicM4= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvI9oBv82lDryVNHbh7CznUX2AzxKHJoOp2bLD8CpOBte0PLyfocWIS7A/+8SH wWeJtS/qz8wrxOeVkMzJIwVm51Lr99K2tHUzO3Y3ZesnQm5DUGUqMZ+EgZxGvPSuzc6h4R2JFLS MbhC9tAm/Rr9/hFI7bVRzE6pojzYUvCHezodYVhhijqayWRqf8kipBVCb8i3G5anXkSA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHXgbZnjI+JRrz1CHyv4isr5xMo/jQtgv/5AmoksY9elqtYrbntTVoxIKqw3Ed0mxdAL3xkRgiOyj7ohgeGGL4= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:7953:b0:ad8:9c97:c2da with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ade1a9c826cmr641474566b.40.1749299209001; Sat, 07 Jun 2025 05:26:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <399DD5AE-312E-4E9A-B8C1-1CB06D2E6425@olegkutkov.me> In-Reply-To: From: Sauli Kiviranta Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 15:26:37 +0300 X-Gm-Features: AX0GCFsbvngLTrI58gvRT-viiVetBxXzdVF30qWPDAQrwpOxBpoMuV6M0knUhJ0 Message-ID: To: David Collier-Brown Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f560f10636fa755f" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Testing airBaltic free Starlink in-flight WIFI for mining remote operations X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2025 12:26:50 -0000 --000000000000f560f10636fa755f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Deal all, The sad thing was that I was completely unprepared! I just sit on my seat, and after the normal safety instructions I suddenly see familiar logo on the screen and announcement. I first thought it must be some premium service or rather just announcement on something they plan to do in the future. Once it sink in and I connected on my phone and ran some speed tests to see what was available, I realized that I gotta seize the opportunity and grab my laptop to try figure out some tests. David: "Showing a real-world demonstration of how well it worked is a really cool thing to do." - Good to hear! I was quite surprised how well it worked! Obviously its quite ideal in terms of visibility, but everything else, the handovers, speed of moving compared to the 16 km/h recommended for the roaming dishy and another 150 users on the same network! Was very cool experience. Oleg: "Have you tried to run StarDebug or at least official Starlink app on your phone? I wonder is it possible to access the hardware and get some debug data :)" - No, did not think of doing this! Next time I will be prepared! I think we will just send one of the guys for a cup of coffee in Vienna to collect data since the interest is there! JPan: "need more data though" + "do you happen to have any info about your public ip address while on the plane, so we can figure out its pop and pop handover behaviors along the way?" - I only ran some ping sweeps, as I was really focused on the target server that I ran the remote control tests through, for user-experience and what it looks like at application layer. Will add this to my script so I always get it. With 1000 samples, ping sweep 1, min/avg/max =3D 36.705/50.375/112.491 ms. Sweep 2, min/avg/max =3D 35.804/51.484/123.599 ms= . Sweep 3, min/avg/max =3D 35.844/49.873/111.873 ms. Across all samples P99=3D73.86389, P50=3D48.9325, P1=3D37.88168. Quite impressive! Spencer: "very interested in that exact detail if you happened to collect it." - Will make sure to have it next time! Nitinder: "If you are embarking on future adventures with Starlink, please install this in your browser and trigger a few tests" - Noted! Will certainly do this next time! ***** Question: Anything else of interest if we send one of our engineers to collect more data? Please let me know and I will try to organize it! ***** Best regards, Sauli On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 8:47=E2=80=AFPM David Collier-Brown via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Just a word of praise for Sauli: > > Showing a real-world demonstration of how well it worked is a really > cool thing to do. It proved just how well it can work. It also > motivated us to ask a lot of questions (:-)) > > --dave > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --000000000000f560f10636fa755f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Deal all,

The sad thing was that I was completely u= nprepared! I just sit on my seat, and after the normal safety instructions = I suddenly see familiar logo on the screen and announcement. I first though= t it must be some premium service or rather just announcement on something = they plan to do in the future. Once it sink in and I connected on my phone = and ran some speed tests to see what was available, I realized that I gotta= seize the opportunity and grab my laptop to try figure out some tests.
=
David: "Showing a real-world demonstration of how well it worked i= s a really cool thing to do."
- Good to hear! I was quite surprised= how well it worked! Obviously its quite ideal in terms of visibility, but = everything else, the handovers, speed of moving compared to the 16 km/h rec= ommended for the roaming dishy and another 150 users on the same network! W= as very cool experience.

Oleg: "Have you tried to run StarDebug= or at least official Starlink app on your phone? I wonder is it possible t= o access the hardware and get some debug data :)"
- No, did not thi= nk of doing this! Next time I will be prepared! I think we will just send o= ne of the guys for a cup of coffee in Vienna to collect data since the inte= rest is there!

JPan: "need more data though"=C2=A0+ "= do you happen to have any info about your public ip address while on the pl= ane, so we can figure out its pop and pop handover behaviors along the way?= "
- I only ran some ping sweeps, as I was really focused on the tar= get server that I ran the remote control tests through, for user-experience= and what it looks like at application layer. Will add this to my script so= I always get it. With 1000 samples, ping sweep 1, min/avg/max =3D 36.705/5= 0.375/112.491 ms. Sweep 2, min/avg/max =3D 35.804/51.484/123.599 ms. Sweep = 3, min/avg/max =3D 35.844/49.873/111.873 ms. Across all samples P99=3D73.86= 389, P50=3D48.9325, P1=3D37.88168. Quite impressive!

Spencer: "= very interested in that exact detail if you happened to collect it."- Will make sure to have it next time!

Nitinder: "If you are = embarking on future adventures with Starlink, please install this in your b= rowser and trigger a few tests"
- Noted! Will certainly do this nex= t time!

*****
Question:=C2=A0Anything else of interest if we send= one of our engineers to collect more data? Please let me know and I will t= ry to organize it!
*****

Best regards,
Sauli

On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 8:47=E2=80=AFPM David Collier-Brown via Starlink= <starlink@lists.buffe= rbloat.net> wrote:
Just a word of praise for Sauli:

Showing a real-world demonstration of how well it worked is a really
cool thing to do. It proved just how well it can work.=C2=A0 It also
motivated us to ask a lot of questions (:-))

--dave

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