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From: Paul McKenney <paulmckrcu@gmail.com>
To: Bruce Perens <bruce@perens.com>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	 Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Hitting an atira asteroid with a spacex starship?
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2022 10:54:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJzB8QHELSFUWyE_bNpLuF6OrXGXRyhK1o7VAG2S9NR9v+b7kw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK2MWOvKeqXgLN9dkKJcKU-XoCnofKCP4zBHWfeRPqMwjOWhOQ@mail.gmail.com>

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No worries!  I will most definitely make it look like an accident.  ;-)

                                          Thanx, Paul


On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 10:37 AM Bruce Perens via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> If you own a 50 ton spaceship, please do not intentionally hit any
> asteroids or other objects with it. What you get is smaller objects heading
> in different directions at different velocities, none of which are all that
> predictable, and in total more danger to objects in space than before and
> still significant danger to ground objects. What you want is to turn it
> harmless. This is done by gently attaching to it and then giving it a
> controlled push.
>
> I've been curious about what one could do over time just using the
> pressure of light from the ground, or enough light to gassify material to
> add delta V, however high power devices for this would also be effective
> weapons.
>
>     Thanks
>
>     Bruce
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 5:28 PM Dave Taht via Starlink <
> starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>> So, what would happen if we hit one of these (3 new ones discovered
>> yesterday) with 50tons of starship, at 15 klicks per second? [1]
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atira_asteroid
>>
>> the three new ones, discovered and announced a day or three back:
>>
>>
>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/three-near-earth-asteroids-were-hiding-in-the-suns-glare-180981055/
>>
>> (Atira class are rocks within earth orbit. They are very hard to see,
>> probably overly baked (low on volatiles), and get bright sun all the
>> time)
>>
>> [1] I'm very inspired by DART, but afraid to do the math for this
>> tonnage and speed. (anyone? there's a LOT of zeroes... ) I have
>> project ploughshare on my mind, except kinetic, and it's less
>> deflection on my mind than reducing a rubble pile to rubble,
>> identifying the good pieces, and bringing them back.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work:
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz
>> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-03 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-03 17:28 Dave Taht
2022-11-03 17:37 ` Bruce Perens
2022-11-03 17:52   ` Dave Taht
2022-11-04  3:48     ` Bruce Perens
2022-11-04  5:09       ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-11-03 17:54   ` Paul McKenney [this message]
2022-11-03 18:11   ` Dave Collier-Brown
2022-11-03 18:17     ` Dave Collier-Brown

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