On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 1:19 PM Eugene Y Chang wrote: > You already know this. Bufferbloat is a symptom and not the cause. > Bufferbloat grows when there are (1) periods of low or no bandwidth or (2) > periods of insufficient bandwidth (aka network congestion). > > If I understand this correctly, just a software update cannot make > bufferbloat go away. It might improve the speed of recovery (e.g. throw > away all time sensitive UDP messages). > This is not my understanding. Bufferbloat is caused by too much buffering in your host, the endpoint, and all intermediate nodes. As a result, they feed packets into the network faster than all of the intermediate nodes can pass them on. And then your latency-sensitive packet gets stuck at the end of those buffers because nobody across the network honors quality-of-service markings in the packet or even uses them honestly. Dave can no doubt say more.