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From: Bruce Perens <bruce@perens.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Eugene Y Chang <eugene.chang@ieee.org>,
	 Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] It's still the starlink latency...
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 13:32:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK2MWOtAZWq8fPk21RcEgt4pUbHV4MZzSufhniafwd3wquraJA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw5tsG60vZOMRScFgWudWhvKUn=r8cn9tiQZG6qS0zmr5g@mail.gmail.com>

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Yes, as an MVNO user, I get thrown off of T-Mobile when the non-MVNO users
want all of the system bandwidth. So we can moderate the statement. But we
definitely observe a problem *at our level.*

    Thanks

*    Bruce*

On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 1:28 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> I appreciate you grabbing this bull by the horns bruce!
>
> However, it is extremely feasible that for their business class,
> military, and/or ukraine based services they's actually implemented at
> least some of the improvements we've been recommending to them for
> 3 years now. It would be smart if they had and weren't talking about it!
>
> Much like how (at last I heard) verizon puts the at home users in the
> lowest 5g service class, if starlink
> was trying to shed the first bout of residential users and retain
> those that don't care at a high price with less service, they could
> not be more effective at that by their baseline services degrading.
>


-- 
Bruce Perens K6BP

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-26 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-21 18:35 Dave Taht
2022-09-22 11:41 ` Andrew Crane
2022-09-22 12:01   ` Mike Puchol
2022-09-22 13:46     ` warren ponder
2022-09-22 15:07       ` Dave Taht
2022-09-22 15:26         ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 15:20 ` Livingood, Jason
2022-09-26 15:29   ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 15:57     ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-26 16:21     ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 16:32       ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-26 19:59         ` Eugene Chang
2022-09-26 20:04           ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-26 20:14             ` Ben Greear
2022-09-26 20:24               ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-26 20:32                 ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 20:36                   ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-26 20:47                 ` Ben Greear
2022-09-26 20:19             ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-26 20:28               ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 20:32                 ` Bruce Perens [this message]
2022-09-26 20:35               ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-26 20:48               ` David Lang
2022-09-26 20:54                 ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-26 21:01                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-26 21:10                     ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-26 21:20                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-26 21:35                         ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-26 21:44                           ` David Lang
2022-09-26 21:44                           ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-27  0:35                             ` Dave Taht
2022-09-27  0:55                               ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-27  1:12                                 ` Dave Taht
2022-09-27  4:06                               ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-27  3:50                             ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-27  7:09                               ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-27 22:46                                 ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-28  9:54                                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-28 18:49                                     ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-26 21:22                       ` David Lang
2022-09-26 21:29                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-27  3:47                           ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-27  6:36                             ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-27 13:55                               ` Dave Taht
2022-09-28  0:20                                 ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-26 21:02                   ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-26 21:14                     ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 21:10                   ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 21:28                     ` warren ponder
2022-09-26 21:34                       ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-27 16:14                       ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 21:17                   ` David Lang
2022-09-29  9:10 David Fernández
2022-09-29 19:34 ` Eugene Chang
2022-10-17 13:50 David Fernández
2022-10-17 16:53 ` David Fernández

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