From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x633.google.com (mail-ej1-x633.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::633]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13F5C3B29D for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 16:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x633.google.com with SMTP id b2so20910698eja.6 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 13:52:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=perens.com; s=google; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=jM91Duh0ffRrVr8ljlalaG4LI6ow4MRiMCt1NUe7gqA=; b=a6XDqnNKhbl3xWY1dkM4++fpf10TOflHa2r0PvathQny9wGLkKWtJblSnHrOeZuPR/ UAw7HjUHar96tKjHGpwYTDUnb9dw0+jZITQ3W5ADsf+lvrzwNaME+ui80gk9j13/udSX v8z+2WxL4dTWCiDpscsgq6AF1aPX+2NTId5Zs= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=jM91Duh0ffRrVr8ljlalaG4LI6ow4MRiMCt1NUe7gqA=; b=4CnF/Q11UMiCj38jgbbJVvVWaBbfVQf+60/uO3RXiwdKedJeFf/tyPpUfUjI97rsgt jj0xxKyducdm3FI3jcMrnvnwUMFaETVJeaQ5fm/3AzlVP0Jks34fckunycjljCML7Iwc GSFp+z1VEkUN3pJwLe96zCj/idz+3LwNdA3JE5RyMWxGVS2L/RDsQ6p9rUmDOSBzIYTq Dlh7tzENYlRkjNM8txeoiQMnGX65iU3pm6Cw/yH3R94nocAjfaNj+ggfnxsxDq0/b30T sPXnYX8cl5b7AFJtGAgfikRlFgnacYQ2PfF1f1wFKJtBN/3GxqXH6OusNFbykOuRp5y4 XutA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf367k4al35scuy2tGbKT6EGcc9N1MR9wjUBLfz0a1R8lJXfNBF4 nPnC0Eaff5ACBDDGYiwtWCt45G2N1nWWUs19A39cRPXCoT5xLA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM4oIJkiztickBhfrhCpy7rRvldiOiT8hUSo4msppxOBqbykm0LnIqV5+LOCLMIaI6CImLu2FNtEqvg2M9aj9X8= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:1de1:b0:78d:9919:38cc with SMTP id og33-20020a1709071de100b0078d991938ccmr6145459ejc.311.1665953543811; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 13:52:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8735bqpq1r.wl-jch@irif.fr> <38522124-6d3b-4ac8-bb20-92bfa35dc9fe@Spark> <87tu46o8e3.wl-jch@irif.fr> <3ea89257-d5f8-4fa9-a90a-c73d49d2a9e2@Spark> <87r0zao0f0.wl-jch@irif.fr> <398208s8-6080-r8q7-s6rs-q9np11428n3o@ynat.uz> <12bfd01d8e001$03cf0e40$0b6d2ac0$@evslin.com> <1ro0q1n3-s460-9r2r-p7rn-526q1qq9qp27@ynat.uz> <7AFAA1E1-B583-4A42-B188-6D80F9C2DDD5@gmx.de> <79o05892-1pp0-q94r-1172-rr80r56o168n@ynat.uz> <20327.1665952634@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20327.1665952634@localhost> From: Bruce Perens Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 21:52:12 +0100 Message-ID: To: Michael Richardson Cc: Starlink list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000031156805eb2d0932" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink no longer available to the Ukrainian army? X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:52:25 -0000 --00000000000031156805eb2d0932 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The automated splicers go for at least USD$5K. If I lived in a war zone and my children were starving, anything I could get close to $5K for could well be the difference between survival for my family or not. And the whole other side doesn't exactly have respect for Ukranian property rights. Fixed infrastructure is the wrong one for wartime. Which is why Starlink is so important. -- Bruce Perens K6BP --00000000000031156805eb2d0932 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The automated splicers go for at least USD$5K. If I l= ived in a war zone and my children were starving, anything=C2=A0I could get= close to $5K for could well be the difference between survival for my fami= ly or not. And the whole other side doesn't exactly have respect for Uk= ranian property rights.

Fixed infrastructure is the wrong one for wartime. Which is why = Starlink is so important.

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Bruce Per= ens K6BP
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