From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vk1-xa32.google.com (mail-vk1-xa32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B4693B29D; Fri, 1 Sep 2023 08:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-vk1-xa32.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-48d0db157efso700103e0c.1; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 05:32:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1693571577; x=1694176377; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9Nwo+b1hZM06P4uXNwdyiyLDSMrbGJqX+QiLjPR3RFs=; b=rdx4j+nj/rvvcUZr4Rewu9DdYvXfbofWBm9qYMdMgRx1Lrg2HJO5FfkGyM+1+M7+D1 l+x6CltC41PcqUFIc3zQTxjYQ1zzQlLkjKMBh/VUQxSBByLxP8eh3lteu3MB45kECRtp AX92dHS9YpgMUCQJF0XILCNGl4Lc+ciiwLKM23aBVCEMrXNd2WYKx/smmDQ5GgZIlDQX CogfbDrk29+db8+Ab/qE4sSeQDcvcrQcpoYSgnH5WVWB1YT6eTjfTbe5rquigFdbRYaR 6PUuy8Ixp0yhPnr4wi1XXRorpOs58dJ+mCkOZu9h8GRb8HvjAxt3BJCep+xzI83Y6qqC V4zw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1693571577; x=1694176377; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=9Nwo+b1hZM06P4uXNwdyiyLDSMrbGJqX+QiLjPR3RFs=; b=IL/0Km32ydfJVqjLy7WN8zSbX2nRhUsV+nq4pRMq8yscJ5LGtGHtS1cN1jTle0qZvh UeKFV8WE09YczJDctsl0Fb27yO3O8Js4owaA4R8lpfzTtuMW7Ooi/Z6HsisWslLBQYuG 3XpAzE3Dn8vAGDqwmkAwlY1y7F/c1RyrudbtwmiQSTHjIejsS/fqntK+z8VThHh+az0V QF53MRJN8UynK14LXGvtusKa393yOEkh55T7Hm4rIzAKrXNXED7bm2E5DVuy5DkcNFtW I8hddR15xpBOdy12LxCLgeAyRuuj/UsUEEI/4FEXdGAX7N6JdLzRcTA5oBUWTMYOLAVC GFmA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx699gyDx8DArcn4cOxXxs9kTmhHakqxQByDqxisnnr3bb/l0t/ UwQODVMj2Bai6vuspGCcOvJAAoU8KhLQZKdtRBM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHzagp/XSAhhDGggawQUO8tHP1+xgYVoTvnEMgCaKjhNb9ge0VTgRPd+SGZcj1e3ppcOIpRK/Yv+WrFo+ddAjs= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:e602:0:b0:48f:a303:c15e with SMTP id d2-20020a1fe602000000b0048fa303c15emr2607959vkh.1.1693571577359; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 05:32:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "Luis A. Cornejo" Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 07:32:46 -0500 Message-ID: To: Tom Zubko Cc: Spencer Sevilla , Dave Taht via Starlink , bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000045334806044b5ca9" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2023 12:32:58 -0000 --00000000000045334806044b5ca9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom, Did you perhaps forget to attach images or include links? -Luis On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 1:41=E2=80=AFAM Tom Zubko via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Hi Spencer > > A degree or so south from your experience, and closer to Alaska. But same > polar laser cross linked environment. > > First one is a HP dish. Second one is a residential unit. Usually a bit > more spread between the 2 but not as much as I expected. > > Obviously we are sucking hard on the pipe!! > > Tom Zubko > New North > C 1-867-777-6190 > O 1-867-777-2111 > > On Aug 31, 2023, at 15:59, Spencer Sevilla via Starlink < > starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > =EF=BB=BFFWIW, I got 188 down a few weeks ago in the high Arctic (~70 deg= rees > latitude). DL usually hung out around 100 more or less, at times was as l= ow > as 30, and then this was the highest result I saw. > > > On Aug 31, 2023, at 14:06, Tom Evslin via Starlink < > starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > Actually my results were with the cloudflare speedtest > > *From:* Luis A. Cornejo > *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:47 PM > *To:* tom@evslin.com > *Cc:* Dave Taht via Starlink ; bloat < > bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat > > I had an almost identical result via the waveform tool. But was never abl= e > to reproduce it, so I took it as a fluke or waveform mis measurement. > > Just judging by the speed it might just be in an isolated cell, not a not > busy time. > > It seems that Ookla seems to be gamed by the ISPs frequently. So that > might explain it also. > > Have you tried the Cloudflare speed test on your dishy with the same > loaded pings? > > -Luis > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 3:22 PM wrote: > > I=E2=80=99ve seen isolated results like this from my dish in central Verm= ont. They > were more frequent during the beta. > > *From:* Starlink *On Behalf Of *= Luis > A. Cornejo via Starlink > *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:09 PM > *To:* Dave Taht via Starlink ; bloat < > bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> > *Subject:* [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat > > I saw this screen shot on Reddit. Seemed like it might of been a fluke? > Isolated case? Are they cheating? No way they have seen the light? > > I don=E2=80=99t have my dishy anymore, but can someone double check for m= e? > > https://reddit.com/r/Starlink/s/ysQ0AZ6RKX > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --00000000000045334806044b5ca9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tom,

Did you perhaps forget = to attach images or include links?

-Luis
=

= On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 1:41=E2=80=AFAM Tom Zubko via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
Hi Spencer

A degree or so south from you= r experience, and closer to Alaska. But same polar laser cross linked envir= onment.=C2=A0

First one is a HP dish. Second one i= s a residential unit. Usually a bit more spread between the 2 but not as mu= ch as I expected.=C2=A0

Obviously we are sucking h= ard on the pipe!!

Tom Zubko
New North
C 1-867-777-6190
O 1-867-777-2111
On Aug 31, 2023, at 15:59, Spencer Sevilla via = Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFFWIW, I got 188 down= a few weeks ago in the high Arctic (~70 degrees latitude). DL usually hung= out around 100 more or less, at times was as low as 30, and then this was = the highest result I saw.
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On Aug 31, 2023, at 14:06= , Tom Evslin via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
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Actually my results were with the cloudflare speedte= st
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From:=C2=A0L= uis A. Cornejo <luis.a.cornejo@gmail.com>=C2=A0
Sent:=C2=A0Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:47 PM
To:=C2= =A0tom@evslin.co= m
Cc:=C2=A0Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bu= fferbloat.net>; bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject:=C2=A0Re: [Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat
=C2=A0
I had an almost identical result via the wa= veform tool. But was never able to reproduce=C2=A0it, so I took it as a flu= ke or waveform mis measurement.
=C2=A0=
Just judging by the speed it might just be in an isolated= cell, not a not busy time.
=C2=A0=
It seems that Ookla seems to be gamed by the ISPs frequently.= So that might explain it also.
=C2=A0=
Have you tried the Cloudflare speed test on your dishy wi= th the same loaded pings?
=C2=A0
-Luis
=C2=A0
On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 3:22 PM <tom@evslin.c= om> wrote:
I=E2=80=99ve = seen isolated results like this from my dish in central Vermont. They were = more frequent during the beta.
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From:= =C2=A0Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net>=C2=A0On= Behalf Of=C2=A0Luis A. Cornejo via Starlink
Sent:=C2=A0Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:09 PM
To:= =C2=A0Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject:=C2=A0[Starlink] Starlink Bufferbloat
=C2=A0=
I saw this screen shot on Reddit. Seemed like it might of = been a fluke? Isolated case? Are they cheating? No way they have seen the l= ight?
=C2=A0
I don=E2= =80=99t have my dishy anymore, but can someone double check for me?<= u>
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