From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vk1-xa34.google.com (mail-vk1-xa34.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 652373B2A4 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2023 16:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-vk1-xa34.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-495c2b28211so1752547e0c.3 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2023 13:19:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1695586762; x=1696191562; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=lRB2sAdYFrlhEUAOZrHng/O0zF03E4gwfUDKV51md50=; b=CFk2v2ubGLL+Xb0uxdHiKpFCM/GRlQPvMZkU1CuFwYEMQB3JNxoiy5isiwxc1uzg0w o2xjOUgFHf0S+MQOw1wflwHvUKfLjfr1J1yDWPlxNE//fE3EgSwjG3QaEP0Vp2U29m4V YLMVVBQW5OdwE3NiGD9t1jRwhQQMBpZPV6zuWV8Wmy6yOUOiI3JoOqjZUxWCuxkNJ9BI LmVMA82cT8AWepwYHKuIpbCygxVoi/rqY5oPRj/MAdOsWQGjms9RCZqsazubUat3iDrM s6ZBxKyJHqeh/k97BC9mnBwNXgQkNEzFpG99lt+PDyxrwtGirlPEMrg8h+Ba7xstjTSU I7Yw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1695586762; x=1696191562; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=lRB2sAdYFrlhEUAOZrHng/O0zF03E4gwfUDKV51md50=; b=o4vrvwCA+1Tu6heSprEtDFfJ+IjWSh3p654KpPbOKwfV5QlSnwgGMHNc1xJxcuLVa6 aqZ2wMjA2eFmNyhCxoCd9pVjnKtswnK2dRvsU57JHcee1ULMmYr82A+W04sTtp5G2khn d35Vst0kwdj0D38xHYdAhSs9f8Tezb1HG0j0Y2ZNl2yHzciBS/erv2Og4WkfnjD36aHM +p27hFtegzcSvxE2YGCXdUmYreyhrQ1D6zpxn8yjbqaL3qpmn+81NJBO0oKWDNQutSOW yB1oFPS9B9kjWpbZjKto5RWfjOrVEFVM+AeupUP0cE/NfVAOZfErBjYtsgVdAavdMyHb U0Aw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzM2J02tftAxy0WcJiIKBvzUKEpA1W5MQHJRUEfuMpRnK/KKtle UczSDB6bmKCedzQEsdYmN3mexklJJ5bt3xg7o4YXqzv8 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFgmLzKkRlqldGUTIRg+8b8X5n4Ou+9B2q+wsjDHV4E5FUSsSb0kcQiWEcOExxNLkQP80GI0CJcH8McJWAlh3s= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:de43:0:b0:48d:5de:3053 with SMTP id v64-20020a1fde43000000b0048d05de3053mr2124366vkg.14.1695586762629; Sun, 24 Sep 2023 13:19:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "Luis A. Cornejo" Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2023 15:19:11 -0500 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ac25ae0606208e41" Subject: Re: [Starlink] tarana strikes back X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2023 20:19:23 -0000 --000000000000ac25ae0606208e41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, Have you actually seen it in person? How is the bufferbloat situation? From the videos I've seen from WISPs and stuff Tarana shares on twitter it seems to be under control, but they seem very bandwidth oriented. A WISP (NextLink) seems to be deploying them, but it seems that is not near where I am. I inquired and they said I wasn't LOS to the tower. I responded back as to when they will deploy Tarana radios in my area and I got crickets. -Luis -Luis On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 9:34=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Tarana, which is indeed, delivering one of the most amazing NLOS WISP > experiences I have ever seen, > just put out this white paper: > > > https://www.taranawireless.com/a-comparison-of-next-generation-fwa-vs-leo= -satellite/ > > Can anyone question these Starlink numbers for cell size, etc? > > -- > Oct 30: > https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --000000000000ac25ae0606208e41 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave,

Have you actually seen= it in person? How is the bufferbloat situation? From the videos I've s= een from WISPs and stuff Tarana shares on twitter it seems to be under cont= rol, but they seem very bandwidth oriented. A WISP (NextLink) seems to be d= eploying them, but it seems that is not near where I am. I inquired and the= y said I wasn't LOS to the tower. I responded back as to when they will= deploy Tarana radios in my area and I got crickets.

-Luis

-Luis

On Sat, Sep 23, 2023= at 9:34=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
Tarana, which is indeed= , delivering one of the most amazing NLOS WISP
experiences I have ever seen,
just put out this white paper:

https://www.tara= nawireless.com/a-comparison-of-next-generation-fwa-vs-leo-satellite/
Can anyone question these Starlink numbers for cell size, etc?

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Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/= 0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html
Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos
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