From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com (mail-lf1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 174953B2A4 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:47:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-lf1-x132.google.com with SMTP id g39so8241293lfv.10 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 07:47:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=domos-no.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=KUi2sX6aiDUg/uexWDtXLQ7O0msxSCliX2hkW/mlynk=; b=JAgOxZfkMZvpKegjLIvpXzS76Ro6jAhJSIvem8Dod69ZqFhMS08GuF6m/b18hQCgm/ oBUzLLMH5PA2QulBnyc9FTWSKFzktq8IAwAKpJ1UfFlD49iklY5uNvM90lF42DI6SXLm gudy5RvO39lP57QWksf+OCAhcY+2TnzZLyQjpjUdaiC8sjERbtb/GqPX8iJqCh0seXw7 o6SKqMlB27uX2ijl0IZ7podIPUMmUeQveB90FhikeeMsVnZMqWVljY14yRdEiZLUIIq1 PtZcYIiR+RUZzELEHtTJRKuZMBOedp2yX5z2ldSo1jeq9Z53dUbMM+gzlCJLiDrYKffH VbjA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KUi2sX6aiDUg/uexWDtXLQ7O0msxSCliX2hkW/mlynk=; b=wXOWirbrXYb+yv82s/vYA3cj2SY//R6aXwe9E1VvwUsayqLrVofbv2SKJrVn6q6LB6 rHUCDJLjeaeHnriFtz/uXEK+RthN0q9Y3C1Wb1w2WQyaDV/8W1oY49dWFvWedkLDYrAH nDAAsur+eFQjU51UxX5qJ/GBSFuK5ogSTbHIZI32dZa5I1FsqbPmOzJV1lgce/yp7aj0 nMsVKucuAqjd01U08q62cCE25EFIMeujsmd1/rrcBvO47Eyx3cl32GrsgM3cl2No356e Gyqx6ULZN1O9zhKr4b6nfykWW3s6T5USvOid3TlESc0uL3X1Vgx0n1t1AH5fAFcc+1Il krRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533fst69zrdCw0DswZcS36b6iSBcQjZ3JbyN3m2LX0zJpU++5V5Z v8tBVqyiJIDZTKBM+XSdUYaLMByNh286HUB6AlDSvgb3RFqxZ9B/ X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzl0P2SPOlLQuVI0gPo7TmSa+dm2SZqv5uiLhu/8KEplupTGelz5JP0YdFAM8RYjZSMpQMS/YFkMlThnGofpmw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:25a:: with SMTP id b26mr177415lfo.261.1644853676261; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 07:47:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Bj=C3=B8rn_Ivar_Teigen?= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:47:44 +0000 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000014d7f305d7fc5734" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Network quality for rocket scientists X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:47:58 -0000 --00000000000014d7f305d7fc5734 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Dave, appreciate the feedback! Sorry to not mention fair queuing explicitly here (I did link people to bufferbloat.net though! Don't know if that makes up for it). I agree it solves the bulk of these problems. /Bj=C3=B8rn Ivar On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 at 15:30, Dave Taht wrote: > It is wonderful to see another take on this subject from another > perspective! > > Only nit is at the conclusion... the benefits of applying fair queuing > to level out apparent jitter is well demonstrated at this point, for > most kinds of traffic. Wish you'd mentioned it. > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 7:07 AM Bj=C3=B8rn Ivar Teigen w= rote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I was inspired by the latest Starship presentation to write a piece on > network quality in the language of rocket science. The blog can be found > here: > https://www.domos.no/news-updates/network-quality-for-rocket-scientists > > > > Cheers, > > Bj=C3=B8rn Ivar Teigen > > > > -- > > Bj=C3=B8rn Ivar Teigen > > Head of Research > > +47 47335952 | bjorn@domos.no | www.domos.no > > WiFi Slicing by Domos > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > > > -- > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > --=20 Bj=C3=B8rn Ivar Teigen Head of Research +47 47335952 | bjorn@domos.no | www.domos.no WiFi Slicing by Domos --00000000000014d7f305d7fc5734 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Dave, appreciate the feedback!

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Sorry to not mention fair queuing explicitly here (I did link peo= ple to bufferbloat.net though! Don&#= 39;t know if that makes up for it).
I agree it solves the bulk of= these problems.

/Bj=C3=B8rn Ivar
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On Mon,= 14 Feb 2022 at 15:30, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
It is wonderful to see another take on this subject fro= m another perspective!

Only nit is at the conclusion... the benefits of applying fair queuing
to level out apparent jitter is well demonstrated at this point, for
most kinds of traffic. Wish you'd mentioned it.


On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 7:07 AM Bj=C3=B8rn Ivar Teigen <bjorn@domos.no> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I was inspired by the latest Starship presentation to write a piece on= network quality in the language of rocket science. The blog can be found h= ere: https://www.domos.no/new= s-updates/network-quality-for-rocket-scientists
>
> Cheers,
> Bj=C3=B8rn Ivar Teigen
>
> --
> Bj=C3=B8rn Ivar Teigen
> Head of Research
> +47 47335952 | bjo= rn@domos.no | www.domos.no
> WiFi Slicing by Domos
> _______________________________________________
> Starlink mailing list
> St= arlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink<= /a>



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I tried to build a better future, a few times:
https://wayforward.archive.org/?sit= e=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org

Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC


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Head of Research
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