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From: Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>
To: Simon Barber <simon@superduper.net>
Cc: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com>,
	 "starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net"
	<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] [Bloat] Of interest: Comcast AQM Paper
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 12:26:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALQXh-OFGN2ehdxhBJ9g_b0jCL2kyVsdHYmxY8QxW14A6f23Wg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D521120A-0E1E-4F29-AE16-D54B8E345513@superduper.net>

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If we see that AQM appears to be not functioning as expected for upstream
connections on DOCSIS3.1, what's the right avenue for getting that
resolved?  (and does that only apply to the Comcast-owned, vs.
customer-owned, modems?)

On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 10:50 AM Simon Barber <simon@superduper.net> wrote:

> Awesome to hear that you are turning this on both upstream and downstream.
> Do you know if the wifi stacks in your home routers also have AQM?
>
> Simon
>
>
> > On Jul 30, 2021, at 10:28 PM, Livingood, Jason via Bloat <
> bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >
> > FYI that I will be presenting a lightning talk at the IRTF MAPRG meeting
> today at 17:30 ET (
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/agenda-111-maprg). The
> talk links to a just-published paper at https://arxiv.org/abs/2107.13968
> (click PDF link in upper right of page) that will likely be of interest to
> these two lists.
> >
> > High-level: turning on AQM in the cable modem (upstream queue) took
> working latency from around 250 ms to between 15-30 ms, which is actually
> kind of cool. ;-) AQM is turned on in all of our CMTSes (downstream queue)
> and in DOCSIS 3.1 modems (upstream queue).
> >
> > Have a nice weekend,
> > Jason
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-31 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-30 21:28 [Starlink] " Livingood, Jason
2021-07-31 17:50 ` [Starlink] [Bloat] " Simon Barber
2021-07-31 19:26   ` Aaron Wood [this message]
2021-07-31 22:55     ` Neal Cardwell
2021-08-01 13:13       ` Michael Richardson
2021-08-01 20:20 Livingood, Jason
2021-08-01 21:39 ` Dick Roy
2021-08-04 11:49   ` Jonathan Morton
2021-08-04 12:46     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2021-08-04 13:03       ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-08-04 13:06         ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2021-08-04 13:43           ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-08-04 18:28             ` Jonathan Morton
2021-08-04 20:44               ` David Lang
2021-08-04 20:51               ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-08-04 18:31           ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2021-08-04 18:58             ` Jonathan Morton
2021-08-04 20:08               ` Jonathan Bennett
2021-08-04 20:18                 ` Nathan Owens
2021-08-04 20:46                   ` Jonathan Bennett
2021-08-05  0:24                     ` Michael Richardson
2021-08-05 15:11                       ` Frank Carmickle
2021-08-07 23:59                         ` Michael Richardson
2021-08-07 20:31   ` Dave Taht
2021-08-01 20:21 Livingood, Jason

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