Re: [Starlink] some post Starship launch thoughts

[Nathan Owens <nathan@nathan.io>]

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*V1.5*
~ 305kg
2.8 x 1.3m bus
22.68sq m solar panel
2x Ka parabolics
4x Phased arrays (likely 3x TX, 1x RX)
3x ISLs
~20Gbps (http://www.satmagazine.com/story.php?number=1026762698, Elon
comments)

*V2.0 Mini*
< 800kg
4.1 x 2.7m bus
104.96sq m solar panel
?? Parabolics, E-Band support
?? Phased Arrays
3x ISLs? (based on photos)
~4x capacity increase over v1.5
~80Gbps

*V2.0 *
< 2000kg (~1250kg per Elon)
6.4 x 2.7m bus
256.94sq m solar panel
?? Parabolics, E-Band support
?? Phased Arrays
>= 3 ISLs?
~7-9x capacity increase over V1.5 ("almost an order of magnitude" per Elon)
Direct-to-Cell?
~140-180Gbps

On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 8:37 AM Michael Richardson via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

>
> Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>     > On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 8:16 AM Michael Richardson via Starlink
>     > <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>     >> > Everyone wants a water deluge system and flame diverter, but I was
>     >> > thinking perhaps liquid nitrogen, as a natural byproduct of LOX
>     >>
>     >> Yeah, but how do you put one on the moon or mars?
>     >> Lower gravity helps, sure, ...
>
>     > Well, the concrete did not shatter at 1/2 thrust...
>
> Can the rocket get off the pad at 1/2 thrust?  If it could get 4-5m away,
> it
> probably could work.
>
>     >> > Landing and then taking off from the moon or mars look rather
>     >> > problematic at the moment!
>     >>
>     >> Do the rockets do the swoop and flip on mars and the moon?
>
>     > SSTO in those cases. Presently.
>
> SS... To Orbit.
> I mean... landing.  Does one flip when landing on the moon?
>
>     >> This part I just don't understand.
>     >> (But then, the entire mars mission is fraught with dozens of
> missing things,
>     >> starting with radiation shielding)
>
>     > I was a very lonely asteroid exploration advocate at the launch,
>     > futilely engaging with the "Mars Firsters" once again, as I have been
>     > since the 80s.
>
> I am with you on this.
>
> Given some mcguffin drive that could get us to another star in some
> reasonable time, when we arrive, we'll still need to live in a space colony
> for a few dozen years before said planet can be made habitable.
> (Even if it was perfect, we still need to clear some land and grow some
> crops, and find/build local source of power...)
>
>
>
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