From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd35.google.com (mail-io1-xd35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0DA73B2A4 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 10:02:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd35.google.com with SMTP id f10so16696326iok.6 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nathan.io; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=sjXGCnDplaxf/ssLvdSZ5pEkbje0FClx9EI5Bj6mOXA=; b=LUfoObPb2TQSzWiXU32QI+8yYAOKljJRd/IDWEXaL7olSrotoYk7GJvtQcn/MdhGaU +ku33HRCyz7/M/jOvVIK87oSdNuI330MHeMTc3zp8Cp2D3Sgx6IjPaOqnweL2pwcXwZU mOnDEbXGd4gRk1Fl+uTrsI8406DjrxdFCNbO3rqFqt1p9BPjTsNHni/M4SAUUN82OkLL IPJBc0rh9hNa9H09ySfnZNYU1wGaLIc1Z/2ORKWj6psJE9DoFCE3w1P7q1NfWPG/8mlk A2SnR3cfcRsUXsEJmtVuaKixfpX80rSWmHjsaTQDQupeyS83BxKhcWWrPlnPKwM/JASP K4vw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sjXGCnDplaxf/ssLvdSZ5pEkbje0FClx9EI5Bj6mOXA=; b=qDI3lYsjR6TlUci8cPIZo78ycw5lhPr1ARWeHpKM7FIUAyix29gK2XYEYn2+/lo3d8 i2FFYvkXEEiTXGIFzrFHuCJN+4lZqy9hSWNaj/WqcZJRqxb6Rs3xUmqa0uWfq6ysGESF BvDQ1YyGdREYPLPGmN8tWInXhI1c8maM15pBJ7fNKc3ZnglcwjWSv7YrURwNauq/H7t7 vh56oLTZKNtXoLOCQMdfeCRRqX4UPu86ggIi8nvp4pg/fcH6udIFiwnJ6vwR9uHS5cGL /fvYag3eZ4hZ6fG5rVRAiRnVeyCG//z8u0kPt33G5D0ODRi0G1WBA0tAMSNiLU1seGes eijg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530jHG6KtRqtwXLjO7l2GcVQmzr3lIbwr81CEbW+2mPO8IqfuZNG 8ZWMif0dmI1xBpvAQOA5EsLq8dsuADfL4KMsIJfXADRMWdwuCjhI X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwVzz/47Itkg6QZEq7/sfod82P64MfGjAARRtMzxVQDEufInz/F/R2Q4g4rc+UekPtVHxKB4iyhFJYwL3CIqVw= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:6a0c:: with SMTP id x12mr3389569iog.81.1623420130045; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <56A85B08-2E65-4165-B4B4-BA0927122781@teklibre.net> In-Reply-To: <56A85B08-2E65-4165-B4B4-BA0927122781@teklibre.net> From: Nathan Owens Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:01:59 -0700 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002c482205c47df4ab" Subject: Re: [Starlink] ipv4 address space? X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:02:10 -0000 --0000000000002c482205c47df4ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable People have set up a refresh cron job and have had the same IPv6 allocation for weeks to months: */5 * * * * root /sbin/rtsol WAN_INTERFACE "I=E2=80=99m on 6 weeks with the same ipv6 block." 1) 143.131.0.0/20 (ARIN) 206.214.224.0/20 (ARIN) 205.174.156.0/23 (ARIN) 198.54.100.0/22 (ARIN) 149.19.108.0/23 (ARIN) 2605:59C0::/28 (ARIN) 135.129.240.0/20 (ARIN) AS397763 (this ASN has never been seen on the Internet) [ARIN] 2a0d:3340::/29 (RIPE) 162.43.192.0/22 (RIPE) 176.116.124.0/23 (RIPE) 188.95.144.0/23 (RIPE) 217.65.136.0/23 (RIPE) 2406:2d40::/32 (APNIC) 103.152.126.0/23 (APNIC) 103.235.92.0/22 (APNIC) 149.19.160.0/20 (LACNIC) 2803:9810::/32 (LACNIC) https://old.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/ioc4lc/starlink_internet_infrast= ructure/ <-- i keep this up to date 2) not sure On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 6:52 AM Dave Taht wrote: > I am of course happy that with a real OS (linux/pfsense/openwrt) in front > of the dishy that an dhcpv6-pd ipv6/56 can be had. > > =E2=80=A6 frustrated that the lease time is only 5 minutes and changes so= metimes > in under 24 hrs. Most OSes still don=E2=80=99t handle an ipv6 retraction = all that > well, and only apps like =E2=80=9Cmosh=E2=80=9D can stay nailed up when t= he underlying ips > change. > > while we=E2=80=99ve had ipv6 =E2=80=9Csource specific routing" and =E2=80= =9Cbcp38" working in > openwrt for 7+ years now, I doubt that=E2=80=99s working anywhere else. > > I got two questions: > > 1) How much ipv4 address space does starlink actually have? (and how tigh= t > is the market nowadays?) > > 2) how often does the external ipv4 address change? > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --0000000000002c482205c47df4ab Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

People have set up a refresh cron= job and have had the same IPv6 allocation for weeks to months:
*= /5 * * * * root /sbin/rtsol WAN_INTERFACE

"I=E2=80=99m on 6 we= eks with the same ipv6 block."

1)
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=C2=A0=C2=A0 143.131.0.0/20= (ARIN)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 206.214.224.0/= 20 (ARIN)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 205.174.= 156.0/23 (ARIN)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 198= .54.100.0/22 (ARIN)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 149.19.108.0/23 (ARIN)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2605:59C0::/28 (ARIN)
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 135.129.240.0/20 (ARIN)<= br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 AS397763 (this ASN has never been seen on the Internet) [A= RIN]
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2a0d:3340::/29 (RIPE)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 162.43.192.0/22 (RIPE)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 176.116.124.0/23 (RIPE)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 188.95.144.0/23 (RIPE)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = 217.65.136.0/23 (RIPE)
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 2406:2d40::/32 (APNIC)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 103.152.126.0/23 (APNIC)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 103.235.92.0/22 (APNIC)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 149.19.160.0/20 (LACNIC)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2803:9810::/3= 2 (LACNIC)
https://old.reddit.com/r/Starlink/commen= ts/ioc4lc/starlink_internet_infrastructure/ <-- i keep this up to da= te

2) not sure

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021= at 6:52 AM Dave Taht <davet@tekli= bre.net> wrote:
I am of course happy that with a real OS (linux/pfsense/openwrt) in = front of the dishy that an dhcpv6-pd ipv6/56 can be had.

=E2=80=A6 frustrated that the lease time is only 5 minutes and changes some= times in under 24 hrs. Most OSes still don=E2=80=99t handle an ipv6 retract= ion all that well, and only apps like =E2=80=9Cmosh=E2=80=9D can stay naile= d up when the underlying ips change.

while we=E2=80=99ve had ipv6 =E2=80=9Csource specific routing" and =E2= =80=9Cbcp38" working in openwrt for 7+ years now, I doubt that=E2=80= =99s working anywhere else.

I got two questions:

1) How much ipv4 address space does starlink actually have? (and how tight = is the market nowadays?)

2) how often does the external ipv4 address change?
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