From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ua1-x929.google.com (mail-ua1-x929.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::929]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1DCF3B29E for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2021 10:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ua1-x929.google.com with SMTP id l24so8517243uak.2 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2021 07:54:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nathan.io; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=HvedsyChyWrrZZtLgTNfNMHnO/FW0pyozUkni/9x25Q=; b=E9b+6BdJkrx41MBI1oqElGERhihBGe3dGzrFAqob/ODY/CSjUwbqkje2nejPpx6MYe 9yMz7YhRfMu7Sh2qEy85YRbHLQ5i9yJVzrCeNrkF60iLTCibhH3MfJhy9VVbZagjugPW x3fLg5dwEjiPgZhiu0i+pwi961LBAMtCD2HnBuE8XdZwm3k2/4QK0sToQ7KeSsSh0hKi evivxnrioejHmh+GlR4qbxc5y3x2UbjZR57vqtYtVNsDOk1ej1o12Hy++mgNkvZFSl97 CtQLIeMSePan8xAl0Xq7VTdx9n4aEuYkXU+8rLRzqMFnBi1ywOt5lLHzJqaPgAc0ZW9x mZfA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=HvedsyChyWrrZZtLgTNfNMHnO/FW0pyozUkni/9x25Q=; b=OGpzK0yBkf1p7kZqIFrOV2qHDyF9Y3XLWvPYPRtUut+uLGztp3/5qbbidNv7zdDQLw /z8VeTXNZSiv5PctqC0rtZvKcBaEqSTrieXQiqDJJi32ujsshrxTzMr8X9n15NMma3FV +PzxMkCEazp8JmTiPRW1fHW0gVp+ZvvBPeaDSKoASBWI6PqvyIdBLZpb3uEg3cPa8RYg IGnmnH/S5Q7cEEyVB7uaRbzBY4sB+nN2bciNmrAZasykxjAB1XGNkwNR/yhjfuzrR7Uu oCEGuJrbHb83oE6nG18gL4qZEe/gZng8ndaDJxWbDvtXeF4qODTOM+89OaX0dH9jAXg9 8TRA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5323KPcwxqqb3ultYaiDvtFRGiilH+8dQhl3wXl+jxmuadN82d/x 6vEe3jTX/mL0aFTADSX43QkaLCxENVE088fgcP7PxNxLTFs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzmbV+XXhCRpdRMO0lzN8dVJRAIbDp1uRa5wfrutoOFROL1T/upTUpc4Wk4EDHrkoQahw3Hi+PPMIz4xqXq+4s= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:5093:: with SMTP id bl19mr12761919vsb.43.1636646099088; Thu, 11 Nov 2021 07:54:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Nathan Owens Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 07:54:47 -0800 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005c095a05d0855d11" Subject: Re: [Starlink] something of a step backwards X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 15:55:00 -0000 --0000000000005c095a05d0855d11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My guess is they moved the "smarts" from the dish to the router, so no net change. On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 7:54 AM Dave Taht wrote: > The new "squary" doesn't let you use your own router. Sigh. There is > so much more you can do with control of your own firewall and > router... > > https://twitter.com/awlnx/status/1458786406722121742 > > sure hope they got all the bufferbloat-fighting algos in the uplink, > wifi, and ethernet, in there, and ipv6 support. > > -- > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --0000000000005c095a05d0855d11 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My guess is they moved the "smarts" from the dis= h to the router, so no net change.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 7:54 AM Dave= Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
The new= "squary" doesn't let you use your own router. Sigh. There is=
so much more you can do with control of your own firewall and
router...

https://twitter.com/awlnx/status/145878640672212= 1742

sure hope they got all the bufferbloat-fighting algos in the uplink,
wifi, and ethernet, in there, and ipv6 support.

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I tried to build a better future, a few times:
https://wayforward.archive.org/?sit= e=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org

Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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