From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ua1-x92a.google.com (mail-ua1-x92a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90BE23CB35 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ua1-x92a.google.com with SMTP id u6so30349071uaq.0 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 06:58:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nathan.io; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=BeDGySZdpZigzIDRJ/NHGWaPY0C7AQ13Y8CkJtM84tU=; b=MvNhSyX3ZIsgTg5pw+oYJAr/DxF+SO/ALQpxikrqKMq9oZSNY8mpEhIpyFH/yR3/Ri O1J311B9JNI5mhmkO9PeVUi5cGrHL84ujPqjpXCqUA2B+wf4nSk42cxIgmZfiWdoxTMP 91GsG2GKTZlFqjIMCmZruY8HlQxE7i+ul1IEfn8XQNFnQW4CRo3dfeaiSGZEj+sKtMjW 8MJRARdFL2mU0NZg0+8RE01/LTqv6miP2yG0wprh3djfjh/2oYX35eLoDxEUUYdcW1Hi Pnyn3r+R77dEcn35ob5kMLpXpd7BzvbLDQPM3F6XV4Q+TG+t7ZYY6N2jeBvs8rGyDes0 UQHQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BeDGySZdpZigzIDRJ/NHGWaPY0C7AQ13Y8CkJtM84tU=; b=2c4Rkh9sBPQtglJm1LdoXQDlJufgYDjZK0t1GhG011ZsLglx76MR9VU6ass1tfeCc4 1ryGdecIYmXk17skcoK3TG0opnNZJ/gCSuuzDIWX3N6XpGsDGshU/+qC3MIVU6dXCWaq rIUmrNFTEYGqB8Frz7QrPy9G9grCQh694g/DtKT/OXjGk+spB0kj1GU6ykdb52tqTsZj IjwCWGzKANVgS483GU2GwrIt9ceTpR5Bb5bdtpd9KLlPnI8Vr5cgDtnvhs8+2cCF3pbB u13XlqetzSPmDJODmo4Q3kwJi+OiMkFzkQW1xFO6Zhm7+Bmw7iDXMoGgCBcsVHtamy0/ G89w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53355d6Bhtm0UxVZuk8WTy770sygvekM+swIicrx1kGgyk/oqdQ9 Ao27ySmiml5oRiEXMa72V9Cw5YsCnDUte0rbFtjnUg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzWmcSlWpiPxNbTcRmb6LYkMmJiK2E5x+KS7QFSrWVZ5dPmNB9cg6gDuVW73fZYKLBkCfG1hYzhoqFpBpUp8rs= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:130e:: with SMTP id g14mr2133236uae.124.1641913130684; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 06:58:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0p8o14o-57p0-9q2s-6424-osos35328q4q@ynat.uz> In-Reply-To: <0p8o14o-57p0-9q2s-6424-osos35328q4q@ynat.uz> From: Nathan Owens Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 06:58:39 -0800 Message-ID: To: David Lang Cc: Dave Taht , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e8267905d54fb012" Subject: Re: [Starlink] reverse engineering the starlink router X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:58:51 -0000 --000000000000e8267905d54fb012 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It=E2=80=99s a cat5e cable with custom waterproof connectors, still seems t= o be Ethernet+ PoE Haven=E2=80=99t seen a teardown yet=E2=80=A6 On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 9:27 PM David Lang wrote: > The new square dish no longer uses a rj-45 cable between the dish and the > router, they have some new connector (looks limilar to USB-C, but flared > on one > side like micro-USB) > > has anyone seen a teardown of the new dish/router yet? (I'm not willing t= o > sacrafice my dish, but I may be willing to open the router for what littl= e > good > it will do, but will probably wait until after I get the ethernet adapter > first. > > David Lang > > On Mon, 10 Jan 2022, Dave Taht wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:32:34 -0800 > > From: Dave Taht > > To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > Subject: [Starlink] reverse engineering the starlink router > > > > Really good teardown and analysis here: > > > > > https://olegkutkov.me/2021/12/25/analysis-and-reverse-engineering-of-the-= original-starlink-router/ > > > > According to his twitter feed, he's now deep into the dishy: > > https://twitter.com/olegkutkov > > > > I really hope the original starlink router gets updated to a modern > > openwrt. The offloads they presently use in that product are just not > > needed at the speeds the dishy runs at and there are so many > > advantages to that modern codebase. > > > > I did get a shot at the newer dishy and wifi router over the holiday > > myself, (without, sigh, an ethernet port) but my primary interest is > > merely in finding a way to effectively run fq-codel derived algos on > > or near it and not have to tear it apart. > > > > > > -- > > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --000000000000e8267905d54fb012 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It=E2=80=99s a cat5e cable with custom waterproof connect= ors, still seems to be Ethernet+ PoE=C2=A0

Haven=E2=80=99t seen a teardown yet=E2=80=A6
<= br>
On Mon,= Jan 10, 2022 at 9:27 PM David Lang <da= vid@lang.hm> wrote:
The new square dish no= longer uses a rj-45 cable between the dish and the
router, they have some new connector (looks limilar to USB-C, but flared on= one
side like micro-USB)

has anyone seen a teardown of the new dish/router yet? (I'm not willing= to
sacrafice my dish, but I may be willing to open the router for what little = good
it will do, but will probably wait until after I get the ethernet adapter f= irst.

David Lang

On Mon, 10 Jan 2022, Dave Taht wrote:

> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:32:34 -0800
> From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> Subject: [Starlink] reverse engineering the starlink router
>
> Really good teardown and analysis here:
>
> https://olegkutkov.me/2021/12/25/analysis-and-reverse-engineering-of-the= -original-starlink-router/
>
> According to his twitter feed, he's now deep into the dishy:
> https://twitter.com/olegkutkov
>
> I really hope the original starlink router gets updated to a modern > openwrt. The offloads they presently use in that product are just not<= br> > needed at the speeds the dishy runs at and there are so many
> advantages to that modern codebase.
>
> I did get a shot at the newer dishy and wifi router over the holiday > myself, (without, sigh, an ethernet port) but my primary interest is > merely in finding a way to effectively run fq-codel derived algos on > or near it and not have to tear it apart.
>
>
> --
> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
> https://wayforward.archive.org= /?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
>
> Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> _______________________________________________
> Starlink mailing list
> St= arlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink<= /a>_______________________________________________
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