From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk1-x72c.google.com (mail-qk1-x72c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 582D23B29D for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2023 11:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qk1-x72c.google.com with SMTP id pj1so12509638qkn.3 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2023 08:23:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=KEP+Drz1p/wQrMkmMWNp/+Z49+ZuKUxJdZp35Vu/cqM=; b=LEB6aryJLFLWYIVCVPfcrsvH9pALoRpuRK3zJDhsX4Ale9sZItn2R2EHtxCt8eoOwZ 7SSM8ZdUw4WGGCju/IVIzB9xwtvemjNYk7XMsWnE+A61AYlrakH/J88olTAO+XylwZ7Y MAnkl6oeWpP+6Ueh2SmHGwNsL5iP8hP+eINd5o79OBvZB0JRvEOb63NzA9BSa+3ydGRk xYPfzAvG3OrvFKeZ6lFQSJEIoxgCVT0J4PSbSzs4gOYVzUSpRG1FhnWvd2ebUoBENog2 y7hPQIdDnJ4qTb9MjC5gKnjW01CYpPA5g5kqxvx9kQqNqlk9wbJMHlaQSA9Os6xCkJmW /Dug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=KEP+Drz1p/wQrMkmMWNp/+Z49+ZuKUxJdZp35Vu/cqM=; b=V6/N1w2OhK0Q3QqwIpqhZ920Uk8siw7qiWgx7pKx9yc7EEt219MLqd4R8sxzPvNcGJ 8Jzll/ptupkLUNHWL7/wAEicdEQ5+Q17LYYOqllSfP6+TqF3GGnR38OtZffFx8rKNjAz yEVZQg0kPbE/8Dekj/J1mSDxwF6xkqkVV5UUhdNPdrakv/j6kBwujMoCgJAO3sp6xopX K/7P5CjRVl1W7mdWUKydKv6QiVwYyhCPuYfyreOAMAjI/vsYQLAp1fKeJJFwzSybELlv NSk1fZsbJFBE4aZMl8TTd++awA5Q8baloCkqiIJxPpaMyEUbTij7MRu7Q6kHL7TOX+D5 ugMw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kqNgWZ4P+01id0PqwXk5pKEX9oEQpkjsa2ijeWAiPqJZUBBWLHn 5iFRtAe1JkydUe2Q0l8RExW3/qiU/Y54441NyzLhncfw X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXtep5w9TKikrWVvIn+ZZPjJHNmoQHjB5dVbBIM9ydtpWTAFZvZKgs73mcGPZw/Qn7HdtAqIw58jTpkH11m1w9M= X-Received: by 2002:ae9:f815:0:b0:6ff:10b6:3b2b with SMTP id x21-20020ae9f815000000b006ff10b63b2bmr1981848qkh.405.1672590209504; Sun, 01 Jan 2023 08:23:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7381115c-e248-d885-e4da-c33da77d6fe1@olegkutkov.me> In-Reply-To: <7381115c-e248-d885-e4da-c33da77d6fe1@olegkutkov.me> Reply-To: zoobab@gmail.com From: Benjamin Henrion Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2023 17:23:17 +0100 Message-ID: To: Oleg Kutkov Cc: Starlink list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004adc3505f13641fc" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink cheaper in Colombia,cand gps spoofing X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2023 16:23:30 -0000 --0000000000004adc3505f13641fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le dim. 1 janv. 2023 =C3=A0 12:49, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> a =C3=A9crit : > Hi, > > Starlink has a multisystem GNSS receiver with data filtering, so it > can't be fooled with the single HackRF (i tested it). > Here they describe another method with gps jammers: https://gpspatron.com/spoofing-a-multi-band-rtk-gnss-receiver-with-hackrf-o= ne-and-gnss-jammer/ > I experimented with NMEA data injected directly into the Dishy operating > system, so I can tell there is no way to cheat the system. > Satellites know your location a wouldn't accept a connection from the > client in an unexpected Cell. All connection slots for all clients and > areas are scheduled. > > Besides this, Starlink requires valid and strict GNSS and 1PPS to sync > the local clock, that's vital for the TDD system. > > > On 1/1/23 13:18, Benjamin Henrion via Starlink wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Just wondering if you could pay less by pretending to be in Colombia > > by spoofing gps sats with a HackRF board: > > > > https://mobile.twitter.com/GeoffreyHuntley/status/1609490537484275712 > > > > Best, > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > -- > Best regards, > Oleg Kutkov > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --0000000000004adc3505f13641fc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Le dim. 1 janv. 2023 =C3=A0 12:49, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink &l= t;starlink@lists.bufferbl= oat.net> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Hi,

Starlink has a multisystem GNSS receiver with data filtering, so it
can't be fooled with the single HackRF (i tested it).
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Here they describe= another method with gps jammers:

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I experimented with NMEA data injected directly into the Dishy operating system, so I can tell there is no way to cheat the system.
Satellites know your location a wouldn't accept a connection from the <= br> client in an unexpected Cell. All connection slots for all clients and
areas are scheduled.

Besides this, Starlink requires valid and strict GNSS and 1PPS to sync
the local clock, that's vital for the TDD system.


On 1/1/23 13:18, Benjamin Henrion via Starlink wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just wondering if you could pay less by pretending to be in Colombia <= br> > by spoofing gps sats with a HackRF board:
>
> https://mobile.= twitter.com/GeoffreyHuntley/status/1609490537484275712
>
> Best,
>
> _______________________________________________
> Starlink mailing list
> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinf= o/starlink

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Best regards,
Oleg Kutkov

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