From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x12c.google.com (mail-lf1-x12c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42C463B29D for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 07:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x12c.google.com with SMTP id u18so14172652lfo.8 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:42:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=dMdIdWf9hwGDwhHkATdq7XLPrjMmd7YvvWqJ5EBeFnM=; b=W5ZNzvpiU07bVkIuHdA9C3u7f55XopkLA1os1EHTCg2fGv2qN4LGvjXsuHc+4fh/9o NR6tO/zFx6qXiI9OlckySB1dLuzq0ls1A38q+BciK6H8LbU7YEwWmJU4zPTiqPchHvTc 6hmL5WJ4vZAuK+gr4mSjt37KUJQR1hAxEL1UcVNdERxwb9g7Ebfs8CS1Fg19GZor0DIS 0/NBTvpmA1MceL362qqfeJVPqPrhgjHQSkvuIph8mzt+AOXoexRLFoQQWp5u+zBOuFo8 JPC1NNd280AILaDInn6PWvq4lqBygcEbYIvHJE20oaHS9x12XVV7gDpoEAj7zQg8TjKy wXxA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=dMdIdWf9hwGDwhHkATdq7XLPrjMmd7YvvWqJ5EBeFnM=; b=2UvVHxSy4ArEjXwaDFkQJzfG+syV7XT7aLHWMi+kU+m9Sk02L0gmO9XJUNJUX4Jom5 Cuw5ttLBcbmt8t+px51RHNsusD6dPixT/h/a62rj+aO7bXZPk4Bt3wjN7u3MKItqpyC+ qKuN7xdV+cYYtLegUVDb+b5YBLqW+cF+DKJIPRgnaom1jhyRTLUQuU2c15voYPuLiUOb xBQ+1zEVHwAbF1KwXcznMtYfxAecF9Z1PG1l56Qbwm6qWbLc6S9LZNLkaZkhz2EqTpZ9 TaJmT+tzMvutP8Je6pSq6MUnurN4jR+SP5xnif8Zj2dSWYkNSnbl/+U1Eh9GJhFZM6Ua Zsng== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf0WZxbLYDuGEiQGJLy7cfLdj2J9qnaq9Pt6mKo8A0qXGJk2hF1W lGOduooVHgDbVRav+qNfLi6TlUkxe02nWR/Zc8rogGGSYqg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM4OzcJ0lbx8QZI2YWCJT8fNcaltDrQjLdRMl4kdXYdP/NK3oIH1BA3mGPqg0RAEgXAwuPy3Gz3nKZBO4Z1L+x4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:10d1:b0:49d:7dac:e2e3 with SMTP id k17-20020a05651210d100b0049d7dace2e3mr1057229lfg.224.1663846928027; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:42:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Andrew Crane Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 07:41:31 -0400 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001b15c705e9428db3" Subject: Re: [Starlink] It's still the starlink latency... X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 11:42:10 -0000 --0000000000001b15c705e9428db3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Even senior reporters for tech publications have been conditioned to not look beyond "speed" numbers. OT I wonder if the woes in North America are caused by the unplanned repositioning of satellites for Ukraine coverage. ~ Andrew On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 2:35 PM Dave Taht via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > I still find it remarkable that reporters are still missing the > meaning of the huge latencies for starlink, under load. Just look at > the > > > https://www.pcmag.com/news/starlink-speeds-drop-significantly-in-the-us-a= mid-congestion-woes > > -- > FQ World Domination pending: > https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --0000000000001b15c705e9428db3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Even senior reporters for tech publications have been cond= itioned to not look beyond "speed" numbers.

OT= I wonder if the woes in North America are caused by the unplanned repositi= oning of satellites for Ukraine coverage.
~ Andrew
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 2:35 PM Dave Taht via Starlink <= starlink@lists.bufferbloa= t.net> wrote:
I still find it remarkable that reporters are still missing the
meaning of the huge latencies for starlink, under load. Just look at
the

https://= www.pcmag.com/news/starlink-speeds-drop-significantly-in-the-us-amid-conges= tion-woes

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