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Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > do small businesses really need higher speeds than they can get now? Excellent point. IMO we are in an environment of bandwidth abundance rather= than scarcity. In a recent example - at IETF-124 in November, with a peak = of 820 devices on the network (much larger than a small biz): * Peak Downstream 1.18 Gbps =96 mean 241 Mbps * Peak Upstream 468 Mbps =96 mean 21 Mbps Jason