From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65A943B2A4 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2025 10:27:14 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1737473233; x=1738078033; i=moeller0@gmx.de; bh=ND5ZXAWOfgPjB7ZpV1ddBdRwjSa9+TFIzjR14zQHp/k=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From: In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id: References:To:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from: message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=MRLLk/U+I73INw23aeGulJb5sdHFhI39wK3WrI47bpLnoDqMfKhCvv3R6F3HkF3v ZZzQYknmBdvYZ05+EhHnHhp09MuYNeyk0RYekG1PN9QxcMRJpIgEoHrExj7ZYgoQq akgpAGs3cEQzTGdeIssn1S6kzmqY6qJhH+fL9Nt0P3n9EgxaT24sDufX/JOOLrKSP ss1s+isYz6lwVw0KKriy4c1+asvzkjc208Q97Z3TWkore8Zjki5E7plIBeuXqCdao mV4q4Z0pcnx4DzHv3F81Ko0BNcpCq4iR17G5VYFw/eE7EMAYb5dF61b3mxmjq8Kjl WWUsiYd0BIWzB/jxKA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from smtpclient.apple ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MYNNy-1u4Wix0N4U-00Wnb8; Tue, 21 Jan 2025 16:27:13 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3776.700.51.11.1\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: <36r7n950-4qs8-1p06-3595-95or55n5p181@ynat.uz> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 16:27:02 +0100 Cc: "b. angel" , Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <269839o2-003o-1756-8r28-3on7q7nsrn54@ynat.uz> <36r7n950-4qs8-1p06-3595-95or55n5p181@ynat.uz> To: David Lang X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3776.700.51.11.1) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:utEgiO6FEU7xZPvuMd3QAcRtyYj8i1LX40Te4yZYxKdQEW/ET+L WHYwcRODSgtqYpUDaZvmuAppnz4FHUU5Q+wRlwXyENTjnWx9S2RcWCg6pOzlQbo9vQg6TFb dDKE7h0dJQ+cJSLHhHjzaqyohJmSfkCgithvySP42SFrYMvmJnY25QcIAQFwu+97D/1JXdA lyPVjgWFIEUQx9B7TC3sw== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:yCR3yWaxJmQ=;yyd7tSCu9DrvGoC15/Ad7WHCMTF gekFGkZK7HGiOKbmAUtK1/tp9WiuBerA9IXvxqHPjqrflDg6y+mHcILpVmdYs7s156Ev+QKdb AeMVFU5U9pWUf0sikgWp5s3LqmRK6Ja8FWoap559qJB2mVKN7hvf/vvB28aZq4DVht5CyjLSG 4VWv1eFFZLyiczKqJW4r6XGkn0kzD2a2jDsn+ojZng7YZ8iAmNLsO4v6LhqMsCDQrny3hnc6v u/OK7Lx2KfugjIesMi962EyXS3cfbxlhdeIU24/n5Y96kbkZ+/elb/BSyy2kkrYgjv7oLUhzE +vxZnHZoBM7hmaNCSL0IdJFxvPwF+SuPLLsO79QoG3E88zI0TD+zUGsxpQ03sLB17CyXamw0K do8JM0gz51WhIBxrKOaSZ6ih8R7rXyC9Kpz0sgoDj/c6DcJzkdu7kEXr1aXz5Sou/Z8McQkDV wy+kqPHFy4SX/rFsXWAotOYjp9/jjEdHBqIFsY95xzJFB5vdpPmpDJn6ZWubsGd5HpnbElD/7 oCDhtS4zIUqrhod94JUMpnaufUa7v2CgCzQzECEjQHxCve10Uq7UMT2kuGODRZPgmWNk+60UU DrhkZ4onBY6Dgy0fP6/DMyB5dkT9R8bDS4VMPFegXPO73EiUKM7IdvCqAsa0e9DmgLVe3MJWl vPk32Z3WRfHU4cP4gUZ34hWpiXTNa0iWze/KMYrQzoZ59I+UoerzCmXlnYOOdutZG/4a4Vt9W vhmTRz7utnNc5/0N8wD4yS9T23J1TO+xKQpzpJlWnqEr2IcJfhVgCweDQiwupesHwzAjI66QW jFTjJfDhdIy0hQVh2DhdhamGeKaXvwdsiRoPHopX9c53Ckdr4SCvlDAiDMhnsboiJ5BU3mkyc wuJLr4/ybNN1lGOEr5gJXIrVtTAh9mpYSrEvj4mTO6H3hg13jVYyY8KR86tASjZkRLrseABUL P7J1EVAw+5voLxPEHDd5Fo3LM7eD1Y6hJk0q6j9tA7LDyQp03wC/Gq2/k/kM81gVZH+HTQxDI PLrXxSmg20RvOH1x/9R3TBUzq+bXbfggFosDZvWvOXTdHrjZzb1QaDescfG3XUTCd9bf1Xr24 1jKvHZtJDPwuOrSFw20pUftRaPf0oR0KsQuOu3BzWGFey1tc7e4YFtS6FQDTwjOt/9j8QTDQX UGca4n0GrgKutDLjiu8MbGXjxzz/Ixs3D+oToXWTecQ== Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink and VPN X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 15:27:14 -0000 Hi David, > On 21. Jan 2025, at 16:22, David Lang via Starlink = wrote: >=20 > b. angel wrote: >=20 >> David, >>=20 >> I gave up on open VPN and starlink a while ago. I've implemented = wireguard >> tunnels with success and reliability. >=20 > did you end up having to do anything with MTU? Did you use TCP or UDP = for your transport? Wireguard itself only allows UDP IIRC, you would need an additional = outer TCP tunnel if you want/need TCP on the outside... >=20 > David Lang >=20 >> Keith >>=20 >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 23:25 David Lang via Starlink < >> starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: >>=20 >>> has anyone done any work with openvpn over starlink (especially if = they >>> got the >>> connectors to completely bypass the router)? >>>=20 >>> I've got the basic connectivity working, but am having problems = trying to >>> get >>> openvpn to work (especially for traffic back through the cgnat to = the >>> router on >>> the starlink side) >>>=20 >>> the logs on the client are reporting link local: (not bound) when = trying >>> UDP, >>> when I try TCP (and clamp the mtu low) I can connect from the = starlink >>> side (st >>> least sometimes) but cannot get the routing the other way to work >>>=20 >>> David Lang >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Starlink mailing list >>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >>>=20 >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink