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From: Annika Wickert <aw@awlnx.space>
Cc: Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] dhcpv6-pd details
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 10:33:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DABF5F76-C96D-41DF-BD8A-6A3A342CAD40@awlnx.space> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw4M3J5E-taXnTWqytJ-LoPBuP=EaeVdHvU6iHAqiBjfJA@mail.gmail.com>

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I got dhcpv6-pd running some time ago with wide-dhcpv6 and the following settings:

profile default
{
  information-only;

  request domain-name-servers;
  request domain-name;

  script "/etc/wide-dhcpv6/dhcp6c-script";
};

interface eth0 {
        send ia-pd 0;
        send ia-na 0;
};

id-assoc na 0 {
};

id-assoc pd 0 {
        prefix-interface wlan0 {
                sla-len 8;
                sla-id 1;
        };
        prefix-interface eth0.222 {
                sla-len 8;
                sla-id 2;
        };

};


To request my IPv6 /64 on my WAN interface I run the following every two minutes, otherwise I lose the address:
/bin/rdisc6 -v eth0

With this v6 works very good and I have no issues at all.

But prefixes change every 24 hours or so

Best,
Annika

> On 17. May 2021, at 21:15, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:04 PM Nick Buraglio <nick@buraglio.com <mailto:nick@buraglio.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> As discussed privately with Dave, I have removed the starlink provided
>> router and replaced it with a Mikrotik RB2011 to allow for more
> 
> Running routerOS? Latest beta's of that have cake in 'em.
> 
>> granular control, and to better tie into my existing network.
> 
> Starlink provides a router, also? I'm so confused. I thought the dishy
> was all there was. Care to tear it apart and describe what's in it?
> 
>> This has
>> allowed me to make a dhcpv6-pd request that is reasonably stable (so
>> far it has changed once in the last 2 months). The lease time is
>> incredibly short, which is a little strange but as long as the DHCPv6
>> server is the same and remains unchanged, it should just hand out the
>> same prefix upon request.
> 
> That was a terrible habit that comcast had got into in the early days
> that forced
> openwrt to flush and reload the firewall every minute, or less.
> 
> I'd pioneered a stateless firewall in cerowrt that never ever ever
> needed to reload the
> rules, using a pattern match for each specifically renamed ethernet interface.
> 
> Regrettably that was not accepted into openwrt, because "nftables" was
> just around the corner.
> It scaled beautifully to tons of interfaces going up and down so long
> as they were named appropriately,
> at far less cpu overhead for complicated rules than the standard
> openwrt firewall.
> 
> https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/CeroWall/?version=9 <https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/CeroWall/?version=9>
> 
> Anyway, I don't remember all that we did to suppress the flood of
> useless static changes
> to everything ipv6, but I hope that whatever we ended up doing still
> works in this case.
> 
>> I also built a very crude measurement display that just uses curl get
>> and dig via smokeping to display reasonable RTT. It's detailed in the
>> reddit post here:
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/mykxjv/functional_ipv6_and_some_crude_starlink_latency/ <https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/mykxjv/functional_ipv6_and_some_crude_starlink_latency/>
>> and can be viewed directly here:
>> https://starmon.qosbox.com/ <https://starmon.qosbox.com/>
> 
> THX! We really need to collect the "good" information and publish it
> somewhere, the reddit noise level is too high.
> 
> One piece of mis-information I think was the news you can "route"
> packets over ipv4 with a box in front of it and
> a default gw of 192.168.100.1 Not clear from that news whether or not
> NAT was required on the next hop or not... ?
> 
> (that's from another reddit post I mis-remember)
> 
>> 
>> Making dhcpv6-pd work is pretty standard:
>> 
>> /ipv6 dhcp-client
>> 
>> add add-default-route=yes interface=ether2 pool-name=starlink-ipv6
>> prefix-hint=::/56 request=prefix
>> 
>> On each interface you want to have IPv6 on:
>> 
>> /ipv6 address
>> 
>> add address=::1 from-pool=starlink-ipv6 interface=bridge.8
>> 
>> add address=::1 from-pool=starlink-ipv6 interface=bridge.6
> 
> THANKS SO MUCH. I am thinking at the moment that openwrt's dhcp-pd
> implementation is currently
> broken (it's not working on admittedly a comcast modem I just got that
> I'd not used before), but
> as soon as I get a chance I'll try configuring odhcpd6 to do something
> like this. If I can remember how.
> 
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-18  8:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-17 18:58 Nick Buraglio
2021-05-17 19:15 ` Dave Taht
2021-05-17 19:30   ` Nick Buraglio
2021-05-17 19:36     ` David Lang
2021-05-17 19:48       ` Nick Buraglio
2021-05-17 19:59         ` Dave Taht
2021-05-17 21:02           ` Nick Buraglio
2021-05-17 23:56             ` Dave Taht
2021-05-18  2:21               ` Nick Buraglio
2021-05-18  6:51                 ` Gert Doering
2021-05-17 19:37   ` Nathan Owens
2021-05-18  8:33   ` Annika Wickert [this message]
2021-05-18 11:37     ` Nick Buraglio
2021-05-18 11:41       ` Annika Wickert
2021-05-18 14:48         ` Nick Buraglio
2021-05-18 14:50           ` Annika Wickert
2021-06-06  3:41             ` Darrell Budic

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