From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04B7E3B29D for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2023 07:02:26 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1672574500; bh=mUm49M2bMCO1/luWEONqA+uEkKuR0704q0eeUsh3gUM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=kMbg+s5Jn8HfZSfLN9myV8qDRUU5eleV33UsldXR4evoXn/+uae0g1VM6MDJUtVzn anRbDg3bZODHUdEE5KvYMDL1nooG7QS8V131SQfEMODajuVkqtx9gOqmD3uD7yPk7E 67kjQttauST8EcPsl0YhZdA/PFRMj5451bEYHRs+/T5yJ+3xddKco5STsKk47dcGRL aRcqLvoBiNWj6veMNc+EmSesF54qc4cKl0/0xvru+RsdlGDq/39E4Mg8uEDXxZqmHy qyW+MVYoHbTe4TDW9Vja2yNdiKwDYn5HKIMZ4n+b9/D+SsrmO1osoNACRrjFYJbChs gEcDsSr/841Pg== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([80.187.109.32]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MTiTt-1pNg5O3Gof-00Tz5C; Sun, 01 Jan 2023 13:01:39 +0100 Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2023 13:01:38 +0100 From: Sebastian Moeller To: Oleg Kutkov , Oleg Kutkov via Starlink , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <7381115c-e248-d885-e4da-c33da77d6fe1@olegkutkov.me> References: <7381115c-e248-d885-e4da-c33da77d6fe1@olegkutkov.me> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:RmJRrX21oR8tLExQsDYpnM6aBviVNn5AJN7WgOczpDG26u+zwNd J4p4pMBkVE5igN9gL0NjOrJrElV5uN0rlRWPq61xnXi/wjhp/X+xUQoe+bz1VqhetqdwT3f l2fMGrfgSp6pIN5mp5a6G1EJwSCAgtVB6xVC2zA/fJG0Htuiu4iTvYHHVD58U1WJ6Bo3h9O xjC36BQU7WwvXlhzfBvgw== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:LCiR2RG60G0=;lV1cnQUKeYoNL4ntyBjISJfFpJK mX9Ruttme5O5LHsnyCeGxLXW3hxfG2tB1DJNHqtV6mLANZsFHPcEI2+LIxAcFxaZVuhiX6PIi QenhsjxdwofU8B+hvL9JM1vDfOcqPBbCKzzhXwcYywh3HvfM1CR4NrOit/ppq4OZlz473Uhdt FnWbLiw1CXgbtbwfM5pTO7ycIiwSYB94zrY6j6yL4hbCee8FSLhzXg1CrP1Fvr/+AqoP+8iER S4avxW5hy9H5QGkx5AV+pyXV4I+rM3dUuHO/EscpjHguC/xe7jk/ARoF7tqfnloSSneGOwPwm g7TUsULaxFoSJtsQohcvgVOqRNCNvnkPsh6Rbfobu3X9VQwFvZIvLf0bHkdhigwZCjmkQmIP5 hkXKvpCpFMUL09ZSzX2kEW7QQqs1Z/0g3anenjHbsiLKCL75Fp0EGjRQZY9Sz+fQO1Is8YSwM YMAG/Qofxc/qsOG44Y/4ahAWDlXiCpUVu6+h7Ie6X0/0Uw6KDDBuraKaCaLC2bTw7zVOUF2Ru Ef0dBFJngzrYzkfqGdc0tKCfFn0Xztjibome5xo4GfQKvTB4IGIj3gizcjPKHVC91tV65PZ8J XJLJw/XqBaxGY0kv/RNUmzxzSNkOpA4pkN2q+pgKciAx4hSfngZlXF0YxfDzyK4BdM6WZHxZ8 4O8miTlHHxcSUBeHIj9mXjwNbZkbstae4Ex806KuSUERXcJqfEzM79ts81VkMalTL4UHn22Lf PR7A3W1gDI8ogjqq9Uzkk5f85sfd5UA1t7tf0gkkhGi1yckoyM+42F1J/GZBr9/pSmeJyeES/ ZbjW0/m9cphBl74mivTDqeh4RHg9NVs6Ha9M5QzQ7tjxgpkIhxx9hjkY5Mfs5Qf6tkIIS5OBH jyI6B9FNH42vFmmTj/RrCMMokmkDVSPfld5sVnnNqLv4+b8ULcA5hnmfcHLE/QVDXxN9v3FUQ H3Egu7JvbKDHOyMTCNUtDWluRfs= Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink cheaper in Colombia,cand gps spoofing X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2023 12:02:27 -0000 Hi Oleg, Tangential question below=2E On 1 January 2023 12:49:20 CET, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote: >Hi, > >Starlink has a multisystem GNSS receiver with data filtering, so it can't= be fooled with the single HackRF (i tested it)=2E > >I experimented with NMEA data injected directly into the Dishy operating = system, so I can tell there is no way to cheat the system=2E >Satellites know your location a wouldn't accept a connection from the cli= ent in an unexpected Cell=2E All connection slots for all clients and areas= are scheduled=2E > >Besides this, Starlink requires valid and strict GNSS and 1PPS to sync th= e local clock, that's vital for the TDD system=2E [SM] Do dishies export their high quality time via NTP or PTP to their LAN= s? Regards Sebastian > > >On 1/1/23 13:18, Benjamin Henrion via Starlink wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> Just wondering if you could pay less by pretending to be in Colombia by= spoofing gps sats with a HackRF board: >>=20 >> https://mobile=2Etwitter=2Ecom/GeoffreyHuntley/status/16094905374842757= 12 >>=20 >> Best, >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet >> https://lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet/listinfo/starlink > --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E