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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 3.3.10 X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Lost in Space: The Limits of Geolocation in a Satellite-Connected World (new article from Geoff Huston) List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Related reminder that the IAB is holding a workshop on IP Geolocation =96 w= ith statements of interested due at the end of this week. For more info: https://www.iab.org/announcements/call-for-papers-iab-workshop-on-ip-addres= s-geolocation-ip-geo/ Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on IP Address Geolocation (ip-geo) 17 Jul 2025, 6:42 p.m. This workshop aims to understand the current use cases for publishing, disc= overing, and consuming IP address geolocation data. Workshop Description This workshop aims to understand the current use cases for publishing, disc= overing, and consuming IP address geolocation data ('IP-geo' hereafter). It= will also explore areas for improvement, both in ways to update or replace= IP geolocation mechanisms, and to consider mechanisms that satisfy the use= cases without relying on IP addresses. The IAB seeks short position papers on the topics listed below. This list i= s non-exhaustive and should be interpreted broadly. * Today's Use Cases: How is IP-geo data used today? In particular, what= are the root challenges, technical needs, or business needs that IP-geo da= ta is being leveraged to address? * Gaps and Problems: What are gaps or problems with the current approac= hes being used by industry? Are there preferences for particular file types= ? How effective are current approaches? What are the impacts on user privac= y? * Future Opportunities: If we re-designed technical solutions to addres= s the motivating use cases, what would those solutions look like? Are there= alternative approaches that can avoid the gaps and problems we have today?= Is there value in conveying other information in addition to or instead of= geography, such as type of last mile network connection? From: Frantisek Borsik via Starlink Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2025 at 01:33 To: Dave Taht via Starlink Subject: [Starlink] Lost in Space: The Limits of Geolocation in a Satellite= -Connected World (new article from Geoff Huston) https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://circleid.com/posts/limits-of-geolocatio= n-in-a-satellite-connected-world__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!EFQL8aw74ccWvN8krJFCWAe6jGU= XLywQDRUR_DX7p0sz9VXAb0IJ-o-NUrY106OF9HEQlkGBclyVVUmd3CB6Ef7vTlJ2Y7KKvw$ =93Where are you?=94 is not an easy question to answer on the Internet. The telephone system=92s address plan embedded a certain amount of physical location information in the fixed-line network, and a full E.164 telephone number indicated your location in terms of your country and your area within that country. The Internet did not adopt a geographic address plan, which means that you will need a lot of additional information to map an IP address to a location at the country or city level." 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