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From: Hayden Simon <h@uber.nz>
To: Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com>,
	"George C. G. Barbosa" <gcgbarbosa@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] geo-engineering...
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 05:16:08 +0000	[thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <CAOp4FwRmeucFvxo9ff3AxJ5dhJHDN3QX6+9BcL8RPTzP-0vuaQ@mail.gmail.com>

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How do you apply a statement like that to the middle east? 20million people in Cairo / Giza; 110million (I think?) total in Egypt. Fuel is NZ$0.50c/litre; cars freaking everywhere running all day long. Average salaries are very low. How would they afford the transition away from fossil fuels?  You could extend that same question to any developing economy.

We're never going to be able to make a useful dent in emissions until we address the developing world.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of Loganaden Velvindron via Starlink
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 5:06 PM
To: George C. G. Barbosa <gcgbarbosa@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] geo-engineering...

Switching to nuclear energy could be an option. We can all learn from France's experience. I agree that We should stop pumping CO2 in the atmosphere. ICE cars should be phased out more aggressively.
Governments should give tax breaks to companies with work from home policies ?

On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 08:37, George C. G. Barbosa <gcgbarbosa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It could be a solution to the heat problem, but then we would keep pumping CO2 into the atmosphere, which would increase ocean acidification, which would disrupt the ecosystem even more. Plankton in the ocean accounts for roughly 1/2 of the oxygen we breathe. My point is: this is a hard problem. The solution won't be simple.
>
>
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> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 9:27 PM Loganaden Velvindron via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>> This should get deployed asap.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, 02:55 Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> MIT has a pretty innovative proposal here:
>>>
>>> https://senseable.mit.edu/space-bubbles/
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>>> 1937/
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-20  5:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-19 22:55 Dave Taht
2023-07-20  4:25 ` Loganaden Velvindron
2023-07-20  4:37   ` George C. G. Barbosa
2023-07-20  5:06     ` Loganaden Velvindron
2023-07-20  5:16       ` Hayden Simon [this message]
2023-07-20  6:33         ` Loganaden Velvindron
2023-07-20  6:44           ` Hayden Simon
2023-07-20  6:53             ` Loganaden Velvindron
2023-07-20  6:56               ` Hayden Simon
2023-07-20  7:13                 ` Loganaden Velvindron
2023-07-20  7:40               ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2023-07-20 16:39   ` Michael Richardson

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