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X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 05:16:27 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_457f6cd4-23f4-4f01-98c8-128cfbc99323 Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How do you apply a statement like that to the middle east? 20million people= in Cairo / Giza; 110million (I think?) total in Egypt. Fuel is NZ$0.50c/li= tre; cars freaking everywhere running all day long. Average salaries are ve= ry low. How would they afford the transition away from fossil fuels? You c= ould extend that same question to any developing economy. We're never going to be able to make a useful dent in emissions until we ad= dress the developing world. HAYDEN SIMON UBER GROUP LIMITED MANAGING DIRECTOR E: h@uber.nz M: 021 0707 014 W: www.uber.nz 53 PORT ROAD | PO BOX 5083 | WHANGAREI | NEW ZEALAND -----Original Message----- From: Starlink On Behalf Of Logana= den Velvindron via Starlink Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 5:06 PM To: George C. G. Barbosa Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink Subject: Re: [Starlink] geo-engineering... Switching to nuclear energy could be an option. We can all learn from Franc= e's experience. I agree that We should stop pumping CO2 in the atmosphere. = ICE cars should be phased out more aggressively. Governments should give tax breaks to companies with work from home policie= s ? On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 08:37, George C. G. Barbosa w= rote: > > It could be a solution to the heat problem, but then we would keep pumpin= g CO2 into the atmosphere, which would increase ocean acidification, which = would disrupt the ecosystem even more. Plankton in the ocean accounts for r= oughly 1/2 of the oxygen we breathe. My point is: this is a hard problem. T= he solution won't be simple. > > > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 9:27 PM Loganaden Velvindron via Starlink wrote: >> >> This should get deployed asap. >> >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, 02:55 Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: >>> >>> MIT has a pretty innovative proposal here: >>> >>> https://senseable.mit.edu/space-bubbles/ >>> -- >>> Podcast: >>> https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:705879391022711 >>> 1937/ >>> Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Starlink mailing list >>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink _______________________________________________ Starlink mailing list Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink ------_=_NextPart_457f6cd4-23f4-4f01-98c8-128cfbc99323 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
How do you apply a statement like that to the= middle east? 20million people in Cairo / Giza; 110million (I think?) total= in Egypt. Fuel is NZ$0.50c/litre; cars freaking everywhere running all day= long. Average salaries are very low. How would they afford the transition = away from fossil fuels? You could extend that same question to any develop= ing economy.

We're never going to be able to make a useful d= ent in emissions until we address the developing world.


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From: Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.n= et> On Behalf Of Loganaden Velvindron via Starlink
Sent: Thursday, = July 20, 2023 5:06 PM
To: George C. G. Barbosa <gcgbarbosa@gmail.co= m>
Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>= ;
Subject: Re: [Starlink] geo-engineering...

Switching to n= uclear energy could be an option. We can all learn from France's experi= ence. I agree that We should stop pumping CO2 in the atmosphere. ICE cars s= hould be phased out more aggressively.
Governments should give tax bre= aks to companies with work from home policies ?

On Thu, 20 Jul 2= 023 at 08:37, George C. G. Barbosa <gcgbarbosa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It could be a solution to the heat problem, but then we wou= ld keep pumping CO2 into the atmosphere, which would increase ocean acidifi= cation, which would disrupt the ecosystem even more. Plankton in the ocean = accounts for roughly 1/2 of the oxygen we breathe. My point is: this is a h= ard problem. The solution won't be simple.
>
>
>= ;
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 9:27 PM Loganaden Velvindron via Starlink= <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>> = This should get deployed asap.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 20, = 2023, 02:55 Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> w= rote:
>>>
>>> MIT has a pretty innovative propo= sal here:
>>>
>>> https://senseable.mit.edu/spa= ce-bubbles/
>>> --
>>> Podcast:
>>&= gt; https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:705879391022711>>> 1937/
>>> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
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